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Check the usage of parentheses in names of Chinese variants #141

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amire80 opened this issue Feb 23, 2021 · 3 comments
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Check the usage of parentheses in names of Chinese variants #141

amire80 opened this issue Feb 23, 2021 · 3 comments

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amire80 commented Feb 23, 2021

Many names of Chinese variants here have parentheses. Here's the full current list:

cjy-hans: [Hans, [AS], 晋语(简化字)]
gan-hans: [Hans, [AS], 赣语(简体)]
hak-hans: [Hans, [AS], 客家语(简体)]
hak-hant: [Hant, [AS], 客家語(繁體)]
zh-cn: [Hans, [AS], 中文(中国大陆)]
zh-hans: [Hans, [AS], 中文(简体)]
zh-hant: [Hant, [AS], 中文(繁體)]
zh-hk: [Hant, [AS], 中文(香港)]
zh-mo: [Hant, [AS], 中文(澳門)]
zh-my: [Hans, [AS], 中文(马来西亚)]
zh-sg: [Hans, [AS], 中文(新加坡)]
zh-tw: [Hant, [AS], 中文(台灣)]

One small issue is in cjy-hans: it has ASCII closing parentheses, while all the rest have fullwidth parentheses on both sides.

But a bigger issue is that I wonder whether the parentheses are needed at all. Can these names be written without parentheses? Or is it more natural with parentheses?

Unfortunately I don't know Chinese. For what it's worth, cdo-hani has no parentheses ("閩東語漢字"), and I can find some others without parentheses, e.g. "客家語繁體" (even if I remove Wikipedia and translatewiki from the results).

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yfdyh000 commented Mar 7, 2021

Using parentheses is a neutral and uniform approach to them.
A few variants have common non-bracket writing, such as zh-cn: 简体中文, zh-tw: 繁体中文 (or 正体中文), but this is not universal for these variants. Non-bracketed titles are feasible and once used but crappy (like "大陆简体", etc).
The full-width brackets are because zhwiki praises it and no-space spacing. This is not a significant problem. In non-zhwiki, spacing + half-width punctuation may be more common to build the languages list.

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amire80 commented Mar 7, 2021

Excellent, thanks for the clarification!

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Addresses #141.

Co-authored-by: Kartik Mistry <kartikm@users.noreply.github.com>
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amire80 commented Mar 8, 2021

Resolved in #148. Thanks for the comments and the reviews @Abijeet @kartikm @yfdyh000 !

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