Include poetry in WinPython?

[stefaneidelloth]

Did you already consider to include poetry in WinPython? I tried to install poetry with pip but it does not seem to be portable:

python-poetry/poetry#6875

Maybe someone here already did it get working in a portable way?

Or maybe someone already tried and faced the same issue and that is the reason why poetry is not included in WinPython?

[stonebig]

Poetry seems based on virtualenv (or whatever venv)

WinPython "single line" change to make Python portable never tried to touch on the "venv" part.

Here is the backbone of WinPython movability, so just try digg if you can figure out what to do for Virtual envs
https://github.com/winpython/winpython/blob/master/winpython/wppm.py#L542..L561

[stonebig]

and so in WinPython spirit (another name for "capability" or "need"), virtual envs are fixed, until someone knows what to do, and wants it to happen

[stonebig]

certainly we shall have something more than "setuptools", but it's not clear what.

[stonebig]

humm .... watched Python Packaging Authority on talkpython.fm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z50B6AmQwLw
... and the comment from Travis.

neither poetry nor hatch do inspire me

[stonebig]

WinPython tries to avoid the "virtual environment" thing, that seems to please poetry and hatch.
But it looks that PEP 704 may win over PEP 582
I discover a PEP 668 along the way... Hell is near.

[stonebig]

as initial step forward, WinPython wheel is now build with flit, to go to one "pyproject.toml" file simplification

[stonebig]

It looks a bit early to judge what's best:

• poetry navigates at 500K downloads
• but I see tricky conda/pip projects, bokeh and now panel, moving to "pypa/hatch".

Being under pypa gives "hatch" a boost of respectability and standard, yet poetry has its nice non-standard hashes.

Until the replacement of rejected pep-0665 is showing-up per Brett Cannon, it's a bit unclear what's best action.

[stefaneidelloth]

As you can see from the mention, I suggested pip to support
pip install
without extra argument, to install dependencies from pyproject.toml: pypa/pip#12100

[stonebig]

reading:

• https://peps.python.org/pep-0665/ for lock files
• https://peps.python.org/pep-0508/ for dependancy spec

[stonebig]

in b5

[stonebig]

proved a problem in WinPython context, replaced par hatch