New Feature Discussion #374

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JustinSainton opened this Issue Apr 30, 2013 · 17 comments

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@JustinSainton
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This ticket will die - either being resurrected as a poll somewhere, or as several spin-off tickets. That said - we've done a TON of work over the last several releases to fix bugs, shore up code, improve APIs, etc. Lots of stuff that should make developers and servers happy.

We're just now starting to clean up some UI cruft and make it pretty again. Mega props to @InstinctBrett for that.

Make no mistake, the vision for the near future (next 6-12 months) is to continue eliminating legacy cruft, improving APIs, etc. That said - we need to slowly start thinking about what our users need for features again. I'm almost always the first one to turn down a feature request and say "Make it a plugin!", but I've been playing with a handful of other e-commerce systems, and here is a short list of features I think would be really interesting to consider for core.

  • Scheduled Sales. Sales Price, but with start/end dates. See Ben's comment below on releases. Much better idea. See Issue #385.
  • Grouped/Package Products. I'm not happy with any implementation of this I've seen. See Issue #386.
  • Backorder Notification system - See Issue #387
  • Proper Reviews/Ratings system (Ratings should arguably be a plugin - not so sure on reviews). See Issue #388
  • Proper Product-Per-Category sorting. See #310
  • 100% Discounts - Seems like every release, someone is asking if this works yet. See Issue #389
@benhuson
WP e-Commerce Plugin member

Some of my rambling thoughts...

Scheduled sales is nice.
I've seen scheduling done in other bespoke CMS as releases which was nice when you wanted to manage lots of scheduled items for a launch date. Maybe something to think about....
ie You create a 'release' with scheduled and expiry times, then you can assign things to that 'release' which will automatically publish when the release triggers. The benefit of that is you can amend the release date which will affect everything, rather than having to edit the schedule of individual products - ideal if you are having a store sale.

The other bit of useful sale functionality would be to be able to apply percentage prices to all products by category in bulk - ie discount everything in the 'shirts' category by 30%. I know this can be done as coupons but it would be better if it could be shown discounted on the site. I think this is plugin territory - would just apply sales prices to products but bear in mind any API that might be needed to hook into schedule functionality above.

I've not seen a grouped product implementation I like yet either, but good functionality to have.

+1 for backorders at some point

I would also love to get product order per category sorted too as I've mentioned with @JustinSainton. I know you mentioned you had an implementation working. For me (and our clients) this is a priority feature so I'm happy to take a look and test this. Are you easily able to share how you achieved this or some initial code you used?

@JustinSainton
WP e-Commerce Plugin member
@instinct
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@JustinSainton
WP e-Commerce Plugin member

Ah right, re: the product-per-category sorting - there's not really any new UI for that (which is to say, we already have the UI to drag and drop products and filter by category.) It's just code. I'll dig it up.

@instinct
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@Weeb
@instinct
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@benhuson
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@JustinSainton Wasn't thinking about the UI at this stage, just the functionality to save to to db and hook into query to order.

I wrote a quick-n-dirty plugin to do product ordering a bit like the pageMash plugin. Select a category which shows you a simple list of products you can drag into order. I wrote it mainly to get round the issue of product list admin pages grinding to a halt when trying to order by drag-n-drop with loads of products - this was much lighter as it just loaded the product names and image.

@ozoneboy

What about adding a wholesale price to products so we have "wholesale price, retail price, sale price" which will allow admin to run off sales reports and calculate actual cost of goods sold and the respective profit? It just makes sense to have all the figures in one system. For example, I have a farmers market store that buys produce from many different wholesalers (the prices can change from week to week), we add our markup, sell weekly orders. Because there is often surplus produce left over (that I eat, yum) and margins are often small, we can't just compare the supplier invoice to our total sales because it doesn't factor in the surplus or wastage, so it's hard to see exactly where money is being made or lost. Having the wholesale price on hand also makes it easier when putting a product on sale so you don't sell it below cost (unless that's your intention). Don't know if any other systems out there have this, but it could be a point of difference that would appeal to many businesses.

@JustinSainton
WP e-Commerce Plugin member

Hi @ozoneboy,

That's a great idea. I think I recall that a Wholesale Pricing plugin already exists (I think it might be more modeled around giving logged in wholesalers different pricing levels than others) - but I think that might be close to what you're needing.

@1bigidea
@benhuson
WP e-Commerce Plugin member

I also think this is probably best suited to a plugin.

@ozoneboy

You're spot on @1bigidea. The Wholesale Pricing plugin doesn't address this issue and as far as I'm aware there isn't an existing plugin, which is surprising because this is really a core element for running a business. So I guess there's a great opportunity if someone wants to develop a plugin! : )

@JustinSainton
WP e-Commerce Plugin member

Awesome - sounds like a great plugin idea. I think these are some solid user-facing issues for 3.9.0. Let's split these up into tickets and assign them.

@1bigidea
@instinct
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@JustinSainton
WP e-Commerce Plugin member

Made new tickets for everything (see original comment for references). 3.9.0 is going to be awesome! Users will love new features. Developers will love the newly exposed APIs and theme engine. Such good times!

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