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Issue and Volume (for newspaperArticle) #17

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rmzelle opened this issue Jan 19, 2011 · 8 comments
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Issue and Volume (for newspaperArticle) #17

rmzelle opened this issue Jan 19, 2011 · 8 comments

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@rmzelle
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rmzelle commented Jan 19, 2011

The "Issue"/issue and "Volume"/volume fields (mapped to issue and volume in CSL) should be added to newspaperArticle.

http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/13076/volume-and-issue-newspaper-article/

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bdarcus commented Jan 19, 2011

You know that thread says these fields are needed, but doesn't cite any practical case for them. I've cited a lot of newspapers in my research, but never come across volume and issue numbers (which seems rather unnecessary given how they're released).

So it's not a big deal, but could we at least document one example of a) a newspaper that includes this information, and b) a style that requires it?

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rmzelle commented Jan 19, 2011

http://www.library.arizona.edu/search/reference/citation-apa.html#apabk4 (not all APA style guides include volume/issue though)

I haven't been able to find any formatted examples though.

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avram commented Feb 7, 2011

b) I can't find any styles that require it, but I have examples of real citations in published works that use it in place of the date of publication.

a) I have hundreds-- every Russian newspaper in the late 19th century and early 20th century. And the practice continues today, although I think dates are more central than they once were.

Part of the reason for issue numbers, I think, is that newspapers were not always so regularly published. My research includes papers that published every other day, or 2-3 times a week. Add to that the fact that papers had to pass the censor and that issues could be arrested from time to time, and the printed dates on newspapers end up being quite messy. Serial numbers are a second piece of data that becomes more useful when printing is irregular.

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avram commented Feb 7, 2011

And issue is useless without volume, since some newspapers restarted issue numbering with each volume. And volumes are usually the same as years of publication, but even that is not always clear. The volume is also a required piece of locator information to order newspapers in Russian library practice (since they are bound and cataloged primarily by title and volume-- year and issue or date are not sufficient to locate the items in many cases).

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@bdarcus: a) In France, this is very common to give issue number to newspaper. b) I can't give you the name of an official style which requires it but I have many examples in real citations.. In a nutshell: + 1 with ajlyon

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bdarcus commented Sep 5, 2016

FWIW, I've come across this issue (no pun intended) with magazine articles. So I'd suggest loosening that up as well.

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rmzelle commented Sep 7, 2016

@bdarcus, any examples you can share? (style guide link or formatted reference?)

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bdarcus commented Sep 7, 2016 via email

dstillman added a commit to zotero/zotero-schema that referenced this issue Aug 28, 2021
- Add `place`, `eventPlace`, and `publisher` to more item types (closes
  zotero/zotero-bits#6)
- Add `publisher` and `place` to `journalArticle`, `newspaperArticle`,
  and `magazineArticle` (closes zotero/zotero-bits#16)
- Add `publisher` and `place` to `webpage` (closes
  zotero/zotero-bits#30)
- Add `place` and `type` for `document` (closes zotero/zotero-bits#18)
- Add `translator` to more item types (closes zotero/zotero-bits#64)
- Add `sessionTitle` (`publication`) and `chair`/`organizer` to
  `presentation` (closes zotero/zotero-bits#60)
- Rename "Rights" to "License" (but keep as `rights` to reduce migration
  trouble) (closes zotero/zotero-bits#63)
- Add many creator types to item types (closes zotero/zotero-bits#77)
- Add `editor` creator type to `report` (closes zotero/zotero-bits#31)
- Move `pages` to `numPages` in `report` (addresses
  zotero/zotero-bits#38)
- Add `number` to `manuscript` (addresses zotero/zotero-bits#19)
- Add `volume` and `issue` to `newspaperArticle` (closes
  zotero/zotero-bits#17)
- Add `isbn`, `issn`, `seriesNumber`, and `series` to `thesis` (closes
  zotero/zotero-bits#15)
- Add `format` to `book` and `bookSection` (closes
  zotero/zotero-bits#14)
- Add `migrations` mechanism (tentative)
dstillman added a commit to zotero/zotero-schema that referenced this issue Nov 17, 2021
- Add `place`, `eventPlace`, and `publisher` to more item types (closes
  zotero/zotero-bits#6)
- Add `publisher` and `place` to `journalArticle`, `newspaperArticle`,
  and `magazineArticle` (closes zotero/zotero-bits#16)
- Add `publisher` and `place` to `webpage` (closes
  zotero/zotero-bits#30)
- Add `place` and `type` for `document` (closes zotero/zotero-bits#18)
- Add `translator` to more item types (closes zotero/zotero-bits#64)
- Add `sessionTitle` (`publication`) and `chair`/`organizer` to
  `presentation` (closes zotero/zotero-bits#60)
- Rename "Rights" to "License" (but keep as `rights` to reduce migration
  trouble) (closes zotero/zotero-bits#63)
- Add many creator types to item types (closes zotero/zotero-bits#77)
- Add `editor` creator type to `report` (closes zotero/zotero-bits#31)
- Move `pages` to `numPages` in `report` (addresses
  zotero/zotero-bits#38)
- Add `number` to `manuscript` (addresses zotero/zotero-bits#19)
- Add `volume` and `issue` to `newspaperArticle` (closes
  zotero/zotero-bits#17)
- Add `isbn`, `issn`, `seriesNumber`, and `series` to `thesis` (closes
  zotero/zotero-bits#15)
- Add `format` to `book` and `bookSection` (closes
  zotero/zotero-bits#14)
- Add `migrations` mechanism (tentative)
dstillman added a commit to zotero/zotero-schema that referenced this issue Nov 17, 2021
- Add `place`, `eventPlace`, and `publisher` to more item types (closes
  zotero/zotero-bits#6)
- Add `publisher` and `place` to `journalArticle`, `newspaperArticle`,
  and `magazineArticle` (closes zotero/zotero-bits#16)
- Add `publisher` and `place` to `webpage` (closes
  zotero/zotero-bits#30)
- Add `place` and `type` for `document` (closes zotero/zotero-bits#18)
- Add `translator` to more item types (closes zotero/zotero-bits#64)
- Add `sessionTitle` (`publication`) and `chair`/`organizer` to
  `presentation` (closes zotero/zotero-bits#60)
- Rename "Rights" to "License" (but keep as `rights` to reduce migration
  trouble) (closes zotero/zotero-bits#63)
- Add many creator types to item types (closes zotero/zotero-bits#77)
- Add `editor` creator type to `report` (closes zotero/zotero-bits#31)
- Move `pages` to `numPages` in `report` (addresses
  zotero/zotero-bits#38)
- Add `number` to `manuscript` (addresses zotero/zotero-bits#19)
- Add `volume` and `issue` to `newspaperArticle` (closes
  zotero/zotero-bits#17)
- Add `isbn`, `issn`, `seriesNumber`, and `series` to `thesis` (closes
  zotero/zotero-bits#15)
- Add `format` to `book` and `bookSection` (closes
  zotero/zotero-bits#14)
- Add `migrations` mechanism (tentative)
dstillman added a commit to zotero/zotero-schema that referenced this issue Jun 29, 2022
- Add `place`, `eventPlace`, and `publisher` to more item types (closes
  zotero/zotero-bits#6)
- Add `publisher` and `place` to `journalArticle`, `newspaperArticle`,
  and `magazineArticle` (closes zotero/zotero-bits#16)
- Add `publisher` and `place` to `webpage` (closes
  zotero/zotero-bits#30)
- Add `place` and `type` for `document` (closes zotero/zotero-bits#18)
- Add `translator` to more item types (closes zotero/zotero-bits#64)
- Add `sessionTitle` (`publication`) and `chair`/`organizer` to
  `presentation` (closes zotero/zotero-bits#60)
- Rename "Rights" to "License" (but keep as `rights` to reduce migration
  trouble) (closes zotero/zotero-bits#63)
- Add many creator types to item types (closes zotero/zotero-bits#77)
- Add `editor` creator type to `report` (closes zotero/zotero-bits#31)
- Move `pages` to `numPages` in `report` (addresses
  zotero/zotero-bits#38)
- Add `number` to `manuscript` (addresses zotero/zotero-bits#19)
- Add `volume` and `issue` to `newspaperArticle` (closes
  zotero/zotero-bits#17)
- Add `isbn`, `issn`, `seriesNumber`, and `series` to `thesis` (closes
  zotero/zotero-bits#15)
- Add `format` to `book` and `bookSection` (closes
  zotero/zotero-bits#14)
- Add `migrations` mechanism (tentative)
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