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Water leak near hot water unit -- system depressurised #522
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This problem has not been observed in several months. We will leave the issue open for regular checking. |
Close issue. Regular checking is routine maintenance. |
Piping repaired/replaced. Refer Issue #680 for more details. |
Hi @pcbaston Unfortunately this problem has happened again to @pjwain. Just yesterday water water was found spraying from a leak near the hot water system and, once again, there has been minor flooding of fresh water into under floor compartments. The pressurised water system is now out of actions. In previous posts @delcosta and yourself have suggested ways of fixing the problem including re-plumbing the system, keeping lines long, fixing pipes to bulkhead to ensure that they do not vibrate and are maintained in proper alignment with the fitting. In recent weeks @allister-polkinghorne has had to fix an leak in the same area and has recent relevant experience. Once again by trimming the split end and refitting. Yesterdays fault appeared to be the short, blind, blue drain hose which is now only 100mm long. This was the same pipe that leaked for Allister. Could we all please workshop a permanent solution to this problem? Chris Smith, our new found plumber, is on standby to work on this problem in the week after Australia Day if we don't fix it in the meantime. If we do proceed with Chris, he will need instructions. @SamMcDonald2538 knows an excellent plumber who might be able to help us while the boat is in Bateman's bay. noting that issues #680 #522 #426 #583 #748 are records of this problem repeating itself. All these issues have relevant and productive comments. Making this priority 1 as it is damaging the boat and spoiling peoples time on it. @CORCpete will be interested not only because he has an upcoming booking. |
Interesting that the drain hose fitting is really the only problem child.
Perhaps it's the fitting or seal that needs replacing. 15mm diam from
memory, unlike RV stuff that's only 10mm. Found a shop in QBYN that only
sells online, but offers pickup previously for spare pipe I took to NZ.
Might be worth a look.
Here's the link to part:
https://www.caravansplus.com.au/jg-tee-15mm-push-on-fitting-p-5416.html
$12.
I thought I also bought the cheap cutter previously to avoid frayed edges
that lead to leaks.....
Paul Baston
…On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 14:27 Steven Ring, ***@***.***> wrote:
Hi @pcbaston <https://github.com/pcbaston>
Unfortunately this problem has happened again to @pjwain
<https://github.com/pjwain>. Just yesterday water water was found
spraying from a leak near the hot water system and, once again, there has
been minor flooding of fresh water into under floor compartments. The
pressurised water system is now out of actions.
In previous posts @delcosta <https://github.com/delcosta> and yourself
have suggested ways of fixing the problem including re-plumbing the system,
keeping lines long, fixing pipes to bulkhead to ensure that they do not
vibrate and are maintained in proper alignment with the fitting.
In recent weeks @allister-polkinghorne
<https://github.com/allister-polkinghorne> has had to fix an leak in the
same area and has recent relevant experience. Once again by trimming the
split end and refitting. Yesterdays fault appeared to be the short, blind,
blue drain hose which is now only 100mm long. This was the same pipe that
leaked for Allister.
Could we all please workshop a permanent solution to this problem? Chris
Smith, our new found plumber, is on standby to work on this problem in the
week after Australia Day if we don't fix it in the meantime. If we do
proceed with Chris, he will need instructions. @SamMcDonald2538
<https://github.com/SamMcDonald2538> knows an excellent plumber who might
be able to help us while the boat is in Bateman's bay.
noting that issues #680
<#680> #522
<#522> #426
<#426> #583
<#583> #748
<#748> are
records of this problem repeating itself. All these issues have relevant
and productive comments.
Making this priority 1 as it is damaging the boat and spoiling peoples
time on it.
@CORCpete <https://github.com/CORCpete> will be interested not only
because he has an upcoming booking.
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I had a closer look this afternoon and the leak appears to be in the short
pipe itself, about half way along its length, not at the connector. Peter W.
…On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 5:16 pm Paul Baston, ***@***.***> wrote:
Interesting that the drain hose fitting is really the only problem child.
Perhaps it's the fitting or seal that needs replacing. 15mm diam from
memory, unlike RV stuff that's only 10mm. Found a shop in QBYN that only
sells online, but offers pickup previously for spare pipe I took to NZ.
Might be worth a look.
Here's the link to part:
https://www.caravansplus.com.au/jg-tee-15mm-push-on-fitting-p-5416.html
$12.
I thought I also bought the cheap cutter previously to avoid frayed edges
that lead to leaks.....
Paul Baston
On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 14:27 Steven Ring, ***@***.***> wrote:
> Hi @pcbaston <https://github.com/pcbaston>
>
> Unfortunately this problem has happened again to @pjwain
> <https://github.com/pjwain>. Just yesterday water water was found
> spraying from a leak near the hot water system and, once again, there
has
> been minor flooding of fresh water into under floor compartments. The
> pressurised water system is now out of actions.
>
> In previous posts @delcosta <https://github.com/delcosta> and yourself
> have suggested ways of fixing the problem including re-plumbing the
system,
> keeping lines long, fixing pipes to bulkhead to ensure that they do not
> vibrate and are maintained in proper alignment with the fitting.
>
> In recent weeks @allister-polkinghorne
> <https://github.com/allister-polkinghorne> has had to fix an leak in
the
> same area and has recent relevant experience. Once again by trimming the
> split end and refitting. Yesterdays fault appeared to be the short,
blind,
> blue drain hose which is now only 100mm long. This was the same pipe
that
> leaked for Allister.
>
> Could we all please workshop a permanent solution to this problem? Chris
> Smith, our new found plumber, is on standby to work on this problem in
the
> week after Australia Day if we don't fix it in the meantime. If we do
> proceed with Chris, he will need instructions. @SamMcDonald2538
> <https://github.com/SamMcDonald2538> knows an excellent plumber who
might
> be able to help us while the boat is in Bateman's bay.
>
> noting that issues #680
> <#680> #522
> <#522> #426
> <#426> #583
> <#583> #748
> <#748> are
> records of this problem repeating itself. All these issues have relevant
> and productive comments.
>
> Making this priority 1 as it is damaging the boat and spoiling peoples
> time on it.
>
> @CORCpete <https://github.com/CORCpete> will be interested not only
> because he has an upcoming booking.
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There is spare pipe, a cutter and fittings on board to fix the pipe. Spare pipe comes in two colours that I think Paul procured previously. Gear is located in fwd port cabin under the seat.
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I had a closer look this afternoon and the leak appears to be in the short
pipe itself, about half way along its length, not at the connector. Peter W.
On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 5:16 pm Paul Baston, ***@***.*** <mailto:***@***.***> > wrote:
Interesting that the drain hose fitting is really the only problem child.
Perhaps it's the fitting or seal that needs replacing. 15mm diam from
memory, unlike RV stuff that's only 10mm. Found a shop in QBYN that only
sells online, but offers pickup previously for spare pipe I took to NZ.
Might be worth a look.
Here's the link to part:
https://www.caravansplus.com.au/jg-tee-15mm-push-on-fitting-p-5416.html
$12.
I thought I also bought the cheap cutter previously to avoid frayed edges
that lead to leaks.....
Paul Baston
On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 14:27 Steven Ring, ***@***.*** <mailto:***@***.***> > wrote:
> Hi @pcbaston <https://github.com/pcbaston>
>
> Unfortunately this problem has happened again to @pjwain
> <https://github.com/pjwain>. Just yesterday water water was found
> spraying from a leak near the hot water system and, once again, there
has
> been minor flooding of fresh water into under floor compartments. The
> pressurised water system is now out of actions.
>
> In previous posts @delcosta <https://github.com/delcosta> and yourself
> have suggested ways of fixing the problem including re-plumbing the
system,
> keeping lines long, fixing pipes to bulkhead to ensure that they do not
> vibrate and are maintained in proper alignment with the fitting.
>
> In recent weeks @allister-polkinghorne
> <https://github.com/allister-polkinghorne> has had to fix an leak in
the
> same area and has recent relevant experience. Once again by trimming the
> split end and refitting. Yesterdays fault appeared to be the short,
blind,
> blue drain hose which is now only 100mm long. This was the same pipe
that
> leaked for Allister.
>
> Could we all please workshop a permanent solution to this problem? Chris
> Smith, our new found plumber, is on standby to work on this problem in
the
> week after Australia Day if we don't fix it in the meantime. If we do
> proceed with Chris, he will need instructions. @SamMcDonald2538
> <https://github.com/SamMcDonald2538> knows an excellent plumber who
might
> be able to help us while the boat is in Bateman's bay.
>
> noting that issues #680
> <#680> #522
> <#522> #426
> <#426> #583
> <#583> #748
> <#748> are
> records of this problem repeating itself. All these issues have relevant
> and productive comments.
>
> Making this priority 1 as it is damaging the boat and spoiling peoples
> time on it.
>
> @CORCpete <https://github.com/CORCpete> will be interested not only
> because he has an upcoming booking.
>
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Peter, that's an easy fix. Well done in locating the source
There is spare pipe onboard. Can't recall where.
The connectors let go if you push in the pipe and hold the centre ring.
Installation is just push in. Same as the 8mm connectors for water filters
if you ever had one.
Paul Baston
…On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 18:33 pjwain, ***@***.***> wrote:
I had a closer look this afternoon and the leak appears to be in the short
pipe itself, about half way along its length, not at the connector. Peter
W.
On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 5:16 pm Paul Baston, ***@***.***> wrote:
> Interesting that the drain hose fitting is really the only problem
child.
> Perhaps it's the fitting or seal that needs replacing. 15mm diam from
> memory, unlike RV stuff that's only 10mm. Found a shop in QBYN that only
> sells online, but offers pickup previously for spare pipe I took to NZ.
> Might be worth a look.
>
> Here's the link to part:
> https://www.caravansplus.com.au/jg-tee-15mm-push-on-fitting-p-5416.html
> $12.
> I thought I also bought the cheap cutter previously to avoid frayed
edges
> that lead to leaks.....
>
>
> Paul Baston
>
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 14:27 Steven Ring, ***@***.***> wrote:
>
> > Hi @pcbaston <https://github.com/pcbaston>
> >
> > Unfortunately this problem has happened again to @pjwain
> > <https://github.com/pjwain>. Just yesterday water water was found
> > spraying from a leak near the hot water system and, once again, there
> has
> > been minor flooding of fresh water into under floor compartments. The
> > pressurised water system is now out of actions.
> >
> > In previous posts @delcosta <https://github.com/delcosta> and
yourself
> > have suggested ways of fixing the problem including re-plumbing the
> system,
> > keeping lines long, fixing pipes to bulkhead to ensure that they do
not
> > vibrate and are maintained in proper alignment with the fitting.
> >
> > In recent weeks @allister-polkinghorne
> > <https://github.com/allister-polkinghorne> has had to fix an leak in
> the
> > same area and has recent relevant experience. Once again by trimming
the
> > split end and refitting. Yesterdays fault appeared to be the short,
> blind,
> > blue drain hose which is now only 100mm long. This was the same pipe
> that
> > leaked for Allister.
> >
> > Could we all please workshop a permanent solution to this problem?
Chris
> > Smith, our new found plumber, is on standby to work on this problem in
> the
> > week after Australia Day if we don't fix it in the meantime. If we do
> > proceed with Chris, he will need instructions. @SamMcDonald2538
> > <https://github.com/SamMcDonald2538> knows an excellent plumber who
> might
> > be able to help us while the boat is in Bateman's bay.
> >
> > noting that issues #680
> > <#680> #522
> > <#522> #426
> > <#426> #583
> > <#583> #748
> > <#748> are
> > records of this problem repeating itself. All these issues have
relevant
> > and productive comments.
> >
> > Making this priority 1 as it is damaging the boat and spoiling peoples
> > time on it.
> >
> > @CORCpete <https://github.com/CORCpete> will be interested not only
> > because he has an upcoming booking.
> >
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Thank you Paul. We found the spare pipe and cutter, and managed to separate
the damaged pipe from the plug connector, but the T-junction connector was
stuck fast, so I'll leave it for you to work on tomorrow. Regards, Peter W.
…On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 7:58 pm Paul Baston, ***@***.***> wrote:
Peter, that's an easy fix. Well done in locating the source
There is spare pipe onboard. Can't recall where.
The connectors let go if you push in the pipe and hold the centre ring.
Installation is just push in. Same as the 8mm connectors for water filters
if you ever had one.
Paul Baston
On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 18:33 pjwain, ***@***.***> wrote:
> I had a closer look this afternoon and the leak appears to be in the
short
> pipe itself, about half way along its length, not at the connector.
Peter
> W.
>
>
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 5:16 pm Paul Baston, ***@***.***> wrote:
>
> > Interesting that the drain hose fitting is really the only problem
> child.
> > Perhaps it's the fitting or seal that needs replacing. 15mm diam from
> > memory, unlike RV stuff that's only 10mm. Found a shop in QBYN that
only
> > sells online, but offers pickup previously for spare pipe I took to
NZ.
> > Might be worth a look.
> >
> > Here's the link to part:
> >
https://www.caravansplus.com.au/jg-tee-15mm-push-on-fitting-p-5416.html
> > $12.
> > I thought I also bought the cheap cutter previously to avoid frayed
> edges
> > that lead to leaks.....
> >
> >
> > Paul Baston
> >
> > On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 14:27 Steven Ring, ***@***.***> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi @pcbaston <https://github.com/pcbaston>
> > >
> > > Unfortunately this problem has happened again to @pjwain
> > > <https://github.com/pjwain>. Just yesterday water water was found
> > > spraying from a leak near the hot water system and, once again,
there
> > has
> > > been minor flooding of fresh water into under floor compartments.
The
> > > pressurised water system is now out of actions.
> > >
> > > In previous posts @delcosta <https://github.com/delcosta> and
> yourself
> > > have suggested ways of fixing the problem including re-plumbing the
> > system,
> > > keeping lines long, fixing pipes to bulkhead to ensure that they do
> not
> > > vibrate and are maintained in proper alignment with the fitting.
> > >
> > > In recent weeks @allister-polkinghorne
> > > <https://github.com/allister-polkinghorne> has had to fix an leak
in
> > the
> > > same area and has recent relevant experience. Once again by trimming
> the
> > > split end and refitting. Yesterdays fault appeared to be the short,
> > blind,
> > > blue drain hose which is now only 100mm long. This was the same pipe
> > that
> > > leaked for Allister.
> > >
> > > Could we all please workshop a permanent solution to this problem?
> Chris
> > > Smith, our new found plumber, is on standby to work on this problem
in
> > the
> > > week after Australia Day if we don't fix it in the meantime. If we
do
> > > proceed with Chris, he will need instructions. @SamMcDonald2538
> > > <https://github.com/SamMcDonald2538> knows an excellent plumber who
> > might
> > > be able to help us while the boat is in Bateman's bay.
> > >
> > > noting that issues #680
> > > <#680>
#522
> > > <#522>
#426
> > > <#426>
#583
> > > <#583>
#748
> > > <#748>
are
> > > records of this problem repeating itself. All these issues have
> relevant
> > > and productive comments.
> > >
> > > Making this priority 1 as it is damaging the boat and spoiling
peoples
> > > time on it.
> > >
> > > @CORCpete <https://github.com/CORCpete> will be interested not only
> > > because he has an upcoming booking.
> > >
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Paul Baston
…On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 21:44 pjwain, ***@***.***> wrote:
Thank you Paul. We found the spare pipe and cutter, and managed to
separate
the damaged pipe from the plug connector, but the T-junction connector was
stuck fast, so I'll leave it for you to work on tomorrow. Regards, Peter
W.
On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 7:58 pm Paul Baston, ***@***.***> wrote:
> Peter, that's an easy fix. Well done in locating the source
>
> There is spare pipe onboard. Can't recall where.
>
> The connectors let go if you push in the pipe and hold the centre ring.
> Installation is just push in. Same as the 8mm connectors for water
filters
> if you ever had one.
>
> Paul Baston
>
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 18:33 pjwain, ***@***.***> wrote:
>
> > I had a closer look this afternoon and the leak appears to be in the
> short
> > pipe itself, about half way along its length, not at the connector.
> Peter
> > W.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 5:16 pm Paul Baston, ***@***.***> wrote:
> >
> > > Interesting that the drain hose fitting is really the only problem
> > child.
> > > Perhaps it's the fitting or seal that needs replacing. 15mm diam
from
> > > memory, unlike RV stuff that's only 10mm. Found a shop in QBYN that
> only
> > > sells online, but offers pickup previously for spare pipe I took to
> NZ.
> > > Might be worth a look.
> > >
> > > Here's the link to part:
> > >
> https://www.caravansplus.com.au/jg-tee-15mm-push-on-fitting-p-5416.html
> > > $12.
> > > I thought I also bought the cheap cutter previously to avoid frayed
> > edges
> > > that lead to leaks.....
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul Baston
> > >
> > > On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 14:27 Steven Ring, ***@***.***> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi @pcbaston <https://github.com/pcbaston>
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately this problem has happened again to @pjwain
> > > > <https://github.com/pjwain>. Just yesterday water water was found
> > > > spraying from a leak near the hot water system and, once again,
> there
> > > has
> > > > been minor flooding of fresh water into under floor compartments.
> The
> > > > pressurised water system is now out of actions.
> > > >
> > > > In previous posts @delcosta <https://github.com/delcosta> and
> > yourself
> > > > have suggested ways of fixing the problem including re-plumbing
the
> > > system,
> > > > keeping lines long, fixing pipes to bulkhead to ensure that they
do
> > not
> > > > vibrate and are maintained in proper alignment with the fitting.
> > > >
> > > > In recent weeks @allister-polkinghorne
> > > > <https://github.com/allister-polkinghorne> has had to fix an leak
> in
> > > the
> > > > same area and has recent relevant experience. Once again by
trimming
> > the
> > > > split end and refitting. Yesterdays fault appeared to be the
short,
> > > blind,
> > > > blue drain hose which is now only 100mm long. This was the same
pipe
> > > that
> > > > leaked for Allister.
> > > >
> > > > Could we all please workshop a permanent solution to this problem?
> > Chris
> > > > Smith, our new found plumber, is on standby to work on this
problem
> in
> > > the
> > > > week after Australia Day if we don't fix it in the meantime. If we
> do
> > > > proceed with Chris, he will need instructions. @SamMcDonald2538
> > > > <https://github.com/SamMcDonald2538> knows an excellent plumber
who
> > > might
> > > > be able to help us while the boat is in Bateman's bay.
> > > >
> > > > noting that issues #680
> > > > <#680>
> #522
> > > > <#522>
> #426
> > > > <#426>
> #583
> > > > <#583>
> #748
> > > > <#748>
> are
> > > > records of this problem repeating itself. All these issues have
> > relevant
> > > > and productive comments.
> > > >
> > > > Making this priority 1 as it is damaging the boat and spoiling
> peoples
> > > > time on it.
> > > >
> > > > @CORCpete <https://github.com/CORCpete> will be interested not
only
> > > > because he has an upcoming booking.
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Problem fixed. Several attempts at repair resulted in a very short tube, which split during Peter Wain's booking |
Nice work Paul! |
Persistent spray from inlet pipe. This may explain the periodic unexpected operation of the cold water pressure pump.
![IMG-0145](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/4327895/160707274-31815792-e216-4878-a8e3-382fa22fc59b.JPG)
![IMG-0144](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/4327895/160707283-93938bd9-818e-4628-b8d9-2f21f3c241a1.JPG)
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