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Wikipedia article #289
Article in wikipedia was proposed for deletion.
If you may share new facts or evidences (not shared yet), you are welcome.
From wikipedia notes:
Let's do this.
An Ideological Divide
In the early 2000's, an ideological spectrum referred to by the two antipoles "deletionism" and "inclusionism" erupted on Wikipedia. Ironically, this bitter feud received sufficient media attention to be included in Wikipedia:
Observe the use of such words as "conformity," "enforcement," and "jurisprudence" in describing deletionists. But what sort of human might be attracted to words like that?
The Deletionists Have Won
Yes, that sort.
To paint with an admittedly wide brush, deletionists are both fundamentalist and conservative (in every categorical sense of those adjectives); inclusionists are not. Since spoken language is inherently subjective, however, there exists no unbiased means of quantifying which articles satisfy the deletionists' necessary condition of "...the interest of enough people" and which do not.
Given that, deletionism is inherently biased towards maintenance of status quo topics – which, in my concerned opinion, is antithetical to our continued accumulation of knowledge as a species. Unfortunately, at least with respect to open-source software, the deletionists have won.
The War on Open-Source
I can hardly count the number of open-source projects with Wikipedia pages that either were successfully deleted or are currently flagged for deletion. The reason why is simple: Wikipedia's notability requirements for software articles are sufficiently draconian that effectively no open-source software meets them. These requirements can be synopsized by the following catechism:
If Google books, Google news, and Google scholar yield no hits for your project, your article will be deleted.
Then let us query:
Of course, few to no open-source projects ever have or will meet such ludicrous eligibility requirements.
The size of your userbase is irrelevant. The number of daily downloads, frontpage hits, blog posts, or tech articles vis-à-vis your project is irrelevant. All that matters to the garden-variety Wikipedian is: "Do members of the for-profit intelligentsia profit from and therefore formally discuss your work in a publicly monetized setting?"
If not, you're going to have a hard time. Hence, open-source software has a hard time. Hence, Wikipedia has become effectively castrated with respect to open-source software.
On the bright side, nature abhors a vacuum. By ceding all of the informational territory on open-source software to the vacuum of
Due to a dysfunctional culture of fundamentalist zealotry, Wikipedia fails with respect to open-source software. There's little to nothing we can do about that. Best of luck, Maximus5 and cohort.
Wikipedians do not have that kind of attitude to every form of OSS.
Take 7-Zip, for instance. Yes, CNet, ZDNet et al. have talked about it (you make it sound as if CNN needs to cover this too), but another criteria that makes 7-Zip notable is its historical value. It is a 16-year-old graphical file archiver made by the same person who made the 7z file format and the LZMA compression algorithm. It is notable because it is a clear open-source competitor to RAR.
However, one thing that ticks me off about Wikipedia is how admins often override voting (ex. everyone can say "no" in a close discussion and the admin will say "yes" and delete it anyway), and how deleted articles cannot be recovered. Instead you have to go in there right before it's deleted, salvage the article, and bring it back to userspace.
isn't this big enough ;) http://www.hanselman.com/blog/ConEmuTheWindowsTerminalConsolePromptWeveBeenWaitingFor.aspx
Would creating an article in a different language help?
Related: ConEmu was mentioned in print in one of the largest computer magazines in Germany.(http://www.heise.de/ct/ausgabe/2013-9-Systemwartung-per-Kommandozeile-2323785.html (paywalled))
Fails WP:PRODUCT - does not apply to ConEmu - see Notability (organizations and companies)
Simply stated, an organization is a group of more than one person formed together for a purpose. This includes commercial and non-commercial activities, such as charitable organizations, educational institutions, hospitals, institutions, interest groups, social clubs, companies, partnerships, proprietorships, religious denominations, sects, etc.
This guideline does not cover small groups of closely related people such as families, entertainment groups, co-authors, and co-inventors covered by WP:Notability (people).
Regardless, we just need to put some attention into the article.
I found ConEmu a few weeks ago and have fallen in love with it. I'm doing a lot of GStreamer work and I like the ability to quickly move between console windows and have both Cygwin and PS windows open also. It is also amazing to put Notepad into a tab and use it for command editing. Makes my life with command line work a million times better.
I actually found ConEmu off an article talking about PowerShell (forget the topic) but it referenced an article written by Scott Hanselman about ConEmu
I see somebody referenced the Hanselman article above with link. I'm leaving the reference anyway.
Why do we care honestly? Wikipedia editors are notorious toward non-mainstream-whatever-in-any-domain and they quickly categorize many things as frindge. I was editing wikipedia before and no matter how good references were I stood no chance against admin editors - depending on the page in question the writings can be reverted in a matter of minutes.
Why care at all? As an example I was struggling with cmd for years. And even when ConEmu was already in play, I couldn't find it by googling like "cmd replacement" for a long time. So I appreciate as much information about ConEmu over internet as possible. Weight of the wiki and wiki pages nowadays is awesome. It is free. Why should ConEmu loose it?
That relates to what I mean. I'm not a SEO expert in any kind but have heard that being referenced by sites like Wiki or Stackoverflow is very good for SEO.
I agree with you in terms that deleting Wiki article isn't killing the project. At the same time I recalled my long forgotten wiki account and tried to help. If many community members will try to help, the page, probably, will not be deleted. Why not? )
For what it's worth, I followed @leycec here because he's a funny guy, and now I'm using ConEmu as a replacement for conhost.exe. (It handles the ANSI codes in the output of
So uh, I probably wouldn't have discovered ConEmu if its article hadn't been flagged for deletion. How about that?