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Update battery controller to consider grid interconnection limit #181

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nickdiorio opened this issue May 16, 2019 · 11 comments · Fixed by #1883
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Update battery controller to consider grid interconnection limit #181

nickdiorio opened this issue May 16, 2019 · 11 comments · Fixed by #1883

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@nickdiorio
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With the addition of a grid interconnection limit, it will be nice to have the battery controller consider this limit when dispatching.

@cpaulgilman
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Export limiting is a common request by PV modelers, for a description see:

https://www.solaranalytics.com/us/blog/what-is-solar-export-limiting-and-how-to-find-your-lost-energy.

And this SMA article about the export limiting feature on some inverters:

https://www.sma-uk.com/solar-systems/export-limitation.html

Users want to know how much energy they lose over the year due to this limiting.

@janinefreeman janinefreeman added this to the 2019 Release milestone May 30, 2019
@janinefreeman janinefreeman removed this from the 2020 Release milestone Jun 5, 2020
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@sjanzou @dguittet Is this complete, or still on our to-do list?

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dguittet commented Jun 5, 2020

This is not complete. The grid interconnection limit is applied after dispatch and not factored into the dispatch decision.

@janinefreeman janinefreeman added this to the 2021 Release milestone Jun 5, 2020
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For battery configurations with Merchant Plant, cleared capacity requirements for both energy market and ancillary services should be considered by the automated dispatch options.

@dguittet
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I'm going to move this out of the upcoming release since I think it needs to be done in conjunction with the other grid requirements, and be part of a larger merchant plant dispatch optimization framework.

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brtietz commented Aug 19, 2021

While working on #658 I wrote a powerflow test that tried to push a DC battery into grid export. The result was the powerflow calculations listed grid_to_load as a negative number. It's not surprising that the powerflow calcs would need work at that level, but wanted to record the specifics here for planning purposes.

@milindsmart
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I believe this issue captures the problem I had when I tried to run the Detailed PV Model with grid limits (import - export is disallowed, a pure BTM system) and battery - the grid limits are not being respected.
Despite being kind of familiar with SAM for several years, it took me a lot of sleuthing to track this behaviour down. I suggest adding a mention somewhere. Also, is there an alternative way of limiting grid imports?

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@milindsmart Good point. I added a note to the Help topic for the Grid Limits page to explain that battery dispatch does not consider the grid interconnection limit (but does consider grid outages). This will be available in the Fall 2022 Release of SAM.

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@brtietz brtietz added wishlist Items that we'd like to do but are not currently funded hybrid and removed wishlist Items that we'd like to do but are not currently funded labels Dec 13, 2023
@brtietz brtietz added this to the SAM Fall 2024 Release milestone Dec 13, 2023
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brtietz commented Dec 13, 2023

This seems like it will be increasingly important for hybrids, so hoping to sneak it into the 2024 release.

@andreaswabbes
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I can confirm that this is a very urgent topic. An option 'charge from curtailed energy' (similar to clipped energy for DC coupled) would be brilliant. Many sites are over-dimensioned on the PV side and are looking towards batteries to avoid waiting for an expansion of grid connection.

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