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Define VTOL Takeoff Alt Independent with next waypoint Alt #15645

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moreba1 opened this issue Aug 29, 2020 · 5 comments
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Define VTOL Takeoff Alt Independent with next waypoint Alt #15645

moreba1 opened this issue Aug 29, 2020 · 5 comments
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moreba1 commented Aug 29, 2020

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There is an issue with the current takeoff and transition planning for VTOLs in px4. takeoff alt and next waypoint alt have the same value. during the transition, altitude will increase but when transition completed altitude must be decreased to reach the setpoint alt.
it is dangerous and is not good behavior. we must be able to define the altitude of the next waypoint independently and a little more.

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bresch commented Aug 31, 2020

I think this is specific to your setup having too much lift during the front transition. Can you confirm that this isn't the case?

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moreba1 commented Aug 31, 2020

I think this is specific to your setup having too much lift during the front transition. Can you confirm that this isn't the case?

This problem may occur for any quad plane VTOL drone. Wings with the angle of attack produce lift during the transition.

Planing takeoff and transition in px4 :

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Planing takeoff and transition in ardupilot:

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Hi

There is an issue with the current takeoff and transition planning for VTOLs in px4. takeoff alt and next waypoint alt have the same value. during the transition, altitude will increase but when transition completed altitude must be decreased to reach the setpoint alt.
it is dangerous and is not good behavior. we must be able to define the altitude of the next waypoint independently and a little more.

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We are facing this behavior during the flight test. Is it possible to let the UAV continue to the next waypoint without altitude correction "if current altitude > transition altitude" after the transition is completed, if not try to increase altitude before going to the next waypoint?

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sfuhrer commented Sep 1, 2020

@moreba1 There really shouldn't be that much altitude gain during the transition. If you could provide a log file I can check for the reason of the climb, and maybe help with the tuning.
Nevertheless, I agree that we could change things on the PX4 side (in combination with QGC if required) to improve the UX. E.g. we could neglect the location specified with the VTOL takeoff waypoint, and instead make it accepted once the transition is completed. The vehicle will then directly fly to the first actual waypoint instead of having to fly to the VTOL transition waypoint in fixed-wing first.

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moreba1 commented Sep 1, 2020

I agree that we could change things on the PX4 side

Thank you. changing code is better than tuning because maybe every platform needs special tuning for this issue.

@moreba1 moreba1 changed the title Independent define VTOL takeoff alt and next waypoint alt Define VTOL Takeoff Alt Independent with next waypoint Alt Nov 16, 2020
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