[Desktop] Allow users to add site exceptions for data that is cleared "on exit" #10493
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This is such a simple yet crucial feature for a privacy focused browser that can still be used conveniently. |
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There's definitely demand for this very helpful feature, as it is constantly requested, as f.i. https://community.brave.com/t/cookie-whitelist/82489 |
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This would really help a lot of people achieve better security, I'm sure more people would use the delete cookies on exit feature if you were able to add exceptions |
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Please add this feature! Ecosia.org search engine asks for captcha verification every time i open the brave browser because te cookies are deleted on exit! Github asks for login etc etc. Thanks a lot for providing brave, it's about time we take privacy seriously! |
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Almost April 2021. Is this still on the go? |
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Definitely add this feature. The absence of this feature is the only thing stopping me from making Brave the only browser I use. |
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agreed, feature worth moving up the list of priority, I would like to have security of Clear All on exit with exception cookies in domains to keep logins I use frequently, thank you |
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This feature is already present in Mozilla Firefox, MSEdge and I would love to see it in Brave browser as well. Its a most needed feature.
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I may be wrong, but I'm getting the feeling this feature is already implemented, albeit it's not as intuitive as it is on the other browsers. Like @Hooregi and many others, I have been using Cookie AutoDelete so far but decided to do a test in a different profile, and I've found that on Example 1. If you block all cookies and add websites to the Example 2. If you check |
You are right, those are the settings. I don't know why the other people keeps saying there is no an actual setting to delete certain cookies and to keep others. |
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You are wrong @joaopenteado. The goal is that the "Always clear cookies when windows are closed" function always deletes all cookies except for sites specifically added as exceptions by user.
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Are you sure? I've just rebooted my machine and tested again and it seems to be working as intended. |
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100% sure, "Sites that can always use cookies" does not override "Clear cookies and site data when you close all windows" as you state... Even after restarting my Linux machine... |
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I've tested it on my Windows 11 and macOS machines and got the expected behavior without any issues. Unfortunately, I don't have a Linux machine at hand anymore to test it over there, but it might be some inconsistent behavior across different OSes or some extension conflict on your end (on my end I've made sure to use clean profiles for testing). It would be nice if we got a few more people to test this behavior on different OSes and post their findings here. I think it might be worth considering reclassifying this issue as a bug fix rather than a new feature. We only need to make sure that the |
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You're right, creating a new profile fixed it for me. Good job @joaopenteado ! Tweaking the UI would definitely be appreciated though. |
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So, I followed the advice to set up a new profile to test this and you all are absolutely right. It is a feature. If I set My problem came from setting |
+1, couldn't put it better, using the opportunity to bump the issue. |
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Been nearly 3 years since I posted this on the brave forum. Still no change. Having clear privacy controls is table stakes for a privacy browser. |
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This seems like a very basic feature to implement. This issue has been open a long time, a lot of other browsers have it, I'm considering using brave, but I need this feature. |
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How is this still an issue? How do you expect users to use Progressive Web Apps from within brave if you can't exclude certain sites from clearing cookies on exit? EDIT: after reading the above solution, isn't this issue as simple as merging the "Clear cookies and site data when you close all windows" option into the On Exit options. Don't both of those toggles do essentially the same thing? |
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This is a really important feature for keeping some comfort with the increased privacy of clearing everything on exit |
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I just tried to start using Brave. So far, pretty good. Until I noticed that there's no (straightforward) way to exclude domains from having cookies cleared on exit. Or, if the workaround referenced above does work, it's not at all clear that's the intended result, based on the wording and layout of the settings dialog. I'm amazed at how long this appears to have been a problem with Brave. This is core stuff. All the other browsers do this. Having this outstanding for so long makes Brave look like a third-rate wannabe browser. I think this will be the end of my trial of Brave. |
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+100!! I've been on the fence for several days now to move from Firefox to Brave, and this is such a basic feature and a major issue that seems to be around for so long, that I question the real motivation of brave developers and their commitment to the privacy-oriented community. The browser is full of crap-features like VPN, BAT, WEB3 stuff, ads, etc., but lack such a basic feature that allies privacy with convenience. If I could get extensions on Android, I would let this pass, but that's not even possible, so I can't get the Cookie AutoDelete extension to achieve what all other browsers can do natively. Unfortunately, I'm writing this on LibreWolf, and will stick with Mull browser on Android until the issue is fixed. |
Agreed, especially lazy for a browser with its own customized settings page. Adding cryptocrap without addressing basic missing features is a terrible look. |
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UPDATE: There are two different settings for clearing cookies (on exit, and when closing all windows.) I need to do some more research to figure out what each one really does. But for the testing I've been doing, I didn't have "on exit" selected, which is what I thought I was testing. Well, I didn't give up on Brave after all. I've been testing the workaround: |
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I appreciate the tip on how to manage to get the exceptions on the desktop app, and maybe it can help other people, but I was already aware of it before I wrote my previous comment. The problem is that it seems that the Android app don't have the same option. I also tested the scenario: In theory, the end result for a single site would be the same for both scenarios. The problem is that with this method, some cookies persist between sessions, and that is not acceptable. |
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I am using the following settings on Brave desktop and they seem to work fine
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To be clear, there are two settings which seem to apply here:
My next project will be to do some experiments with each setting, which means testing four different possibilities (both on, both off, one on, the other on.) I'm wondering what "close all windows" really means. I don't usually run with more than one browser window open. That's what tabs are for. So for me, "on exit" means the same as "close all windows." I'm guessing I've misunderstood and there's another distinction Brave is making here. Having those two options in two different places also implies a different purpose. Feel free to run the same tests and post what you find. I'm primarily testing the desktop version. I don't like to sync settings with my mobile devices, so I won't be looking at that issue. |
I followed these steps but still had the issue. After trying everything I found out that you also need to uncheck: clear browser data > on exit > "Site and Sheilds Settings" |
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@EriOldMan I have the same exact settings but still some sites get their cookies deleted despite being in the "Sites that can always use cookies" section. This feature is not user friendly and completely unreliable as it is at the moment. It should be bulletproof. |
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I couldn't agree more. I think I've got it set OK now, but I'm not sure I'm clearing all the cookies I want. Sometimes sites seem to "remember" things I didn't expect them to. Using a browser shouldn't require in-depth analysis of what's being saved and what isn't. There should be clear, unambiguous options to clear all cookies on exit, and a clear way to identify exceptions in the same option setting dialog. Oh, and when I went to try to set the same options on the Android version, nothing looked familiar. I gave up and returned to the browsers I'd been using before. This is really a shame. Brave could be a real star in the browser world! |
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+1 from community member, I'd really love to see this feature added, thank you! |
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Did anyone test the "Forgetful Browsing" browser feature in Brave ( https://brave.com/privacy-updates/25-forgetful-browsing/ ) ? Seems to be a much better alternative to "clean on exit" as it removes site data already when closing the tab and can easily be configured for any specific site by activating the option in the navigation bar. A clearer and more coherent integration between those 2 would be great though. |
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There is no option where I can edit Sites that can use cookies while as others are cleared by this :
Brave seems to have removed the option in a new update. Kind of annoying as I cannot edit it or turn off so other sites can use cookies for login, and making me re-login again and again. |
I think it got moved to Settings > Privacy and security > Site and shields settings > Additional content settings > On-device site data, then you choose the middle option (Delete data sites that have been saved to your device when you close all windows) and define the exceptions below. The above is not synchronised with the forgetful browsing mentioned in #10493 (comment) though, so not sure what the Brave team's idea is. |
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@onchov is correct. I thought I was paranoid scrolling through this thread and not being able to find the toggles. Looks like it was changed in this issue #35415 , hence this from the release notes:
This issue really needs to be revamped at a higher priority; this method for adding exceptions is very obscure, but the desire for it is not. Hopefully this is just an interim update and the team will prioritize it soon. |
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Damn. Thanks a lot. @onchov |
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This function works as others have said, you must untick "cookies and other site data" and "site and shield settings" in the clear browsing tab "on exit" brave://settings/clearBrowserData then go to brave://settings/content/siteData and change the default behaviour to the second option "Delete data sites that have been saved to your device when you close all windows" then add the sites you want to keep data for to the "Allowed to save data on your device" Posting this only to make it simpler for people to figure out. No one else here has made it actually simple to follow with all the steps. I think this should be closed or changed to a ui improvement request. |
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Thank you, @VGJUNKY! This is much clearer. Of course we're not always in this post to copy and paste the local URLs, above. To find the same settings in the UI, here is how to navigate through the Brave menus: (1) Uncheck the "on exit" box:
(2) And the one I always have trouble finding, "Allow to save data on your device":
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Description
As it is now, any data type that is checked in the
Clear browsing data --> [On exit]will have all data of that type removed upon closing the browser. While this is the intended function, we should implement a function similar to what Microsoft Edge does, where site exceptions can be added to a "Do not clear" list. Data on this list is ignored when the browser runs "clear on exit":This would help users maintain login data for sites they regularly visit and not have to re-authenticate every time data is erased. Additionally, this helps with support, since clearing browsing data often resolves issues with bad cache data -- having the ability to suggest users do this, but without sacrificing specific data they know they want would be very useful and appreciated by users
Miscellaneous Information:
Original thread that bought this to my attention (again):
https://community.brave.com/t/delete-all-cookies-on-exit-except-allowed-list/137872/5
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