test winebottler to run cmdr in a macOS

[pestrela]

I don't have a mac but would love to test this option. I used wine in linux many moons ago to run ultraedit in linux.

https://winebottler.kronenberg.org/
"WineBottler runs your Windows-based programs directly on your Mac.
This is possible thanks to a Windows-compatible subsystem, which is provided by the great OpenSource tool Wine."

https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=33084
"Check wine 5.7 it now includes WPF with mono."

https://wiki.winehq.org/Winetricks
"Winetricks is a helper script to download and install various redistributable runtime libraries needed to run some programs in Wine."

other options:
https://github.com/cmdr-editor/cmdr/blob/master/docs/running_on_macos.md

[pestrela]

@ErikMinekus could you have a quick go at this to see if this option has any future?

[pestrela]

I think the failure of the process in wine has to do with the .Net requirement. 
What version of Windows is the program built for? Winebottler gives you some 
options to compile so I tried Windows XP. As for .Net, your docs say that 4.5 is 
required. Winebottler gives you options of 4.5, 4.5.2, etc up to 4.8.smething. 
I'm trying again now with 4.7.2 of .Net and Windows 7.

Thanks for testing this.

I'm targeting 4.5. This is installable in Vista and upwards.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/framework/migration-guide/versions-and-dependencies?redirectedfrom=MSDN

In visual studio 2017 I can easily upgrade to up to 4.6.1.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/framework/whats-new/

I can try to downgrade to 3.5 (strong dependency on LINQ and WPF).

[pestrela]

about wine mono: this was only upgraded recently for linux.
The mac version is laging behind but it will get there.

Winebottler uses v0.0.8 of winemono:
https://winebottler.kronenberg.org/specifications

winemono v0.0.8 was released in 2014:
https://dl.winehq.org/wine/wine-mono/

the one we need is winemono v5.0:
https://www.winehq.org/news/2020042401

which was released in april 2020:
https://dl.winehq.org/wine/wine-mono/

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On top of all this, winetricks may be required:
https://wiki.winehq.org/Winetricks

[pestrela]

tried to compile to .net framework 3.5
lots of errors, some examples:

• no data grid:
  https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3124551/alternative-to-wpf-datagrid-using-net-3-5-sp1

• no iReadOnlyCollection Interface:
  https://codereview.stackexchange.com/questions/16044/readonlycollection-my-alternative-to-net-one

[pestrela]

Apple will make patches to mono
This will help a lot
https://twitter.com/migueldeicaza/status/1275177067626278913?s=21

[phonique]

Just a quick report that cmdr works fine in Crossover 17.5 (the old version that I have installed with Wine 2.8 as the backend). There is some flickering, when using controls, but is long as the pointer is over an active control (e.g. a button, or inside a textfield), all is good, so it's easily worked around.
I suspect, current versions will run better.
All I did was to install all the .net redistributables in a Win10 bottle (probably just 4.5 necessary, as per @pestrela's comment above), but I'm also using the bottle for more than just cmdr.

[pestrela]

Many thanks for the report