Allow --help --verbose

[denisdefreyne]

Currently, --help --verbose does not print the help verbosely, because both options are independent and do not know about each other.

Not sure how to solve this.

[osg]

Alternative solution is to write the five extra commands and eliminate the need for --verbose.

[denisdefreyne]

I’m assuming you mean the five extra commands from nanoc. They’re hidden on purpose; they’re deprecated so they shouldn’t be shown by default.

[osg]

Is there confusion in removing the line (5 hidden commands omitted; show them with --verbose).

If they are deprecated, why do I need to know about them. Migration information could go into a migration guide or an upgrade guide.

[denisdefreyne]

Is there confusion in removing the line (5 hidden commands omitted; show them with --verbose).

That is possible, but it doesn’t solve the problem that --help --verbose doesn’t work as expected, though.

If they are deprecated, why do I need to know about them.

That’s why they’re hidden. Perhaps the message could be updated to say that they are deprecated.

[osg]

I personally would rather not see them at all. That said, I am not upgrading from one version to another at the moment. When I do, I will first check the Upgrade guide rather than the list of commands.

[denisdefreyne]

They won’t be removed from nanoc 3.x because nanoc follows semantic versioning.

[osg]

+1 for that rationale.

[denisdefreyne]

Closing, as I don’t believe that there is any reasonable way that --help --verbose can print the help verbosely. Cri handles the options in a certain order; --help being evaluated after --verbose is odd (and what about other cases, such as --help --version?).

help --verbose will still work.