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BBQ Area #77
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The area we are working with is: from : #14 (comment) |
Best value for money I've found for the traditional Pizza Oven online: I would order the 120cm version for €165 + shipping and add the optional thermometer. This the most well-finished oven I've found: (but costs considerably more) These Dome Ovens are sold for $1799 on the website: Leroy is over-charging for their ovens: leroymerlin.pt/Site/Pesquisar.aspx?q=FORNO%20lenha Made-to-measure Inox Grill: |
Once again, the width I'm using as a guide for counter space either side of the sink is the IKEA LÄMPLIG Chopping board https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/products/cookware/knives-chopping-boards/l%C3%A4mplig-chopping-board-bamboo-art-00309829/ The important dimension is the 53cm width. |
Voila! All-weather BBQ area with wood-fire pizza/bread oven. @iteles I estimate this will cost €1500 including all materials:
Going to print off the renders on A3 paper to show Pedro/Carlos Open questions:
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Printed. ✅ |
@iteles it would be good to get your feedback on these designs. |
@nelsonic We've talked a little about this before but good call on getting me to write it down 😬 We could posteriorly add some shelving under the bbq and pizza oven area to store the implements required for each type of cooking (or even as a place to put down plates if you're serving directly onto people's plates). We could also build in a slide-away table top for extra counter space to place the raw ingredients (fish and veggies for the barbeque) and raw pizzas whilst the oven is in use. I would propose that this is super simple: immediately under each area (bbq and pizza), there is a tabletop that slides out with a drop-down leg. The material would have to be heat-resistant! I would also love to paint the back wall of the bbq area in chalkboard paint - it might be a little dark, we'd have to see - but people could write messages for the cook, make pizza ingredient requests and many other things. It would also disguise any dirt and be pretty easy to wipe down! I don't have many thoughts on the roofing situation yet - it would be prettier as a wooden pergola with vines but a little dangerous what with the open flames of the grill 😄 I considered for a while whether the grill and pizza oven should swap sides (though I assume you thought through which one should be positioned where) because most of the grills that I've seen have been increasingly difficult to clean or at least they start to look increasingly 'ashy' throughout use. But this is easily solvable with cover and with grilling being the more social of the two activities, it makes sense for this to be in front of the leisure room 🎉 I also wondered whether the smoke from the pizza oven would start to stain the sunroom glass #14 but came to the conclusion this can mostly be directed and/or stayed ontop of and the grease smoke from the grill would be worse anyway The draining board for the sink will count as counter space anyway (I had considered whether it was strictly required given counter space is at a premium in an outside cooking area) so works great 👍 I think your costs a little on the low side (i.e. I think the quotes we get will be more expensive for the structure) but we can research this. I'm estimating it's be more like €2,500. Thank you again for the many hours spent on this. 😍 |
@iteles thanks for the feedback and confirming that you don't want to change anything. 👍 I agree with your assessment that €2,500 might be closer to the final cost of this mini project. Especially if we don't get competing quotes up-front before work starts ... 🙄 Roofing will be the leftover tiles from our roof (if they haven't been thrown away ...) Agreed, shelving below the sink (to be added later) will be for cleaning products Extra counter space will be determined as needed. All enhancement should be opened as independent issues and worked on as micro-projects. I think the minimalist design above lends itself to much extension. 👍 I agree that it might be best to limit the use of oven or grill to avoid chaos. We still have a can of chalkboard paint (leftover from prev project) so worth testing it out. 👍 I'm keen on having an above counter drying rack: nelsonic/crockery-drying-storage-rack#3 In order to store crockery (plates and cups), cutlery and utensils outside, we will need to research outdoor-friendly crockery (because we don't want glass/ceramic in the garden where it will inevitably break and leave shards that people will step on...) 🔍📝💡 💸 I wish sustainable outdoor-friendly crockery wasn't so extortionate ... I really like the Bamboo ones: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32947288663.html An MVP could be Palm Leaf Plates https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07SN6CK5V I obvs prefer the more durable Bamboo ones because they are better in the longer term. Always a pleasure to drive ideas/design forward. |
👍 Totally agree. Once the time for extensions come, I'll open them as separate issues. And yes on the sustainable outdoor tableware 🎉 I originally thought it would be nice to use a stone or two that we'd taken from opening up the dining room wall and using them as part of the bbq area, but practically speaking, this would overcomplicate things and given that the stones aren't quite square, it probably wouldn't look visually appealing.
❤️ Would love this, let's do it. |
The Physics of Good Pizza: physics-of-pizza.pdf |
Our friend Andrew Mcharg is co-founder of https://eastpizzasdough.com/ he recommends this oven because it’s multi-fuel. The oven heats up to 500+*C, fits 2 pizzas at once and cooks them in 7 mins. It looks siiiiiick and apparently gives incredible results. Obvs can’t justify this cost right now, but when I win the lottery, will definitely get one. 😋 🍕 |
Andrew (the pizza chef) says that Ooni are decent too and way more "affordable" for the casual backyard pizza maker. 😉 Multi-fuel (Coal, Wood or Propane): https://eu.ooni.com/products/ooni-karu-12g Or the wood pellets only model: |
KARU 16 vs DOME - In Depth Comparison⎮Good for Neapolitan Pizza? Results are identical. 👌 |
Dedicated Pizza Oven Issue: dwyl/pizza#1 🍕 |
As a person who loves grilled food
I would like to have a dedicated BBQ area
So that we can have a weekly braai. 🔥
Todo
Related to #61 (Exterior Lighting) and #14 (SunRoom)
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