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Update Information - Detailed Description #41
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Agree with the proposed changes. |
More discussion on this topic in S-101-Portrayal-subWG/Working-Documents#78 |
From DCEG Sub-Group meeting 3 Record: Points to Note:
Discussion/Decision:
Action: From S-101PT9 Record: It was suggested that the application of the UpdateInformation Meta feature be mandated for all “significant” (that is, having a significant impact on safety of navigation) Updates as a replacement for the current ECDIS system implementation for highlighting ENC Updates. It was agreed that the changes made to UpdateInformation for Edition 1.1.0 were OK, however further discussion was required. It was noted that such implementation could potentially result in significantly more work required by Data Producers. Action S-101PT9/06: DCEG Sub-Group to discuss and develop options and associated guidance for the implementation of the UpdateInformation Meta feature for consideration of the S-101PT. |
Refer to Paper S-101PT10-07.10 and associated Action S-101PT10-21. To be discussed at next DCEG Sub-Group meeting, for submission to S-101PT11. |
An initial draft paper S-101PT11-08.4 has been prepared for discussion at the DCEG Sub-Group meeting 05-06 September 2023. S-101PT11_2023_08.4_EN_Modelling_and_Use_of_the_UpdateInformation_Feature_V1.pdf Comments in advance of the DCEG Sub-Group meeting are welcome. |
Support the paper. Some points I would like to discuss:
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Support the paper as well. We are actively looking at the implementation of this, but there are very limited test scenarios on hand. The revised attributes will feed into a new portrayal rule. What we presented previously, (visually), was done outside of the concepts of S-100 modelling, so this approach will be more in line with the S-100/S-101 constructs.
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I think there are some problems with the proposed updateType attribute. I think the concept of the Update information is to give the mariner meaningful information about changes in the data with respect to the context of the change. I think there will be cases where the context of an update (new survey, traffic change, etc) would require changes within that context that could include Move, Add, Modify, Delete. I think it would make more sense to have different roles for the association between the Update Information feature and the features involved in that update. Using roles such as move, add, delete for the association would allow a compound situation to be described by the Update Information. Also I think it might be useful to have the update number to allow for past and current UpdateInformation objects to be distinguished. |
The discussion in sub group VTC meeting today identified that the S-100 portrayal is only working with current features in the dataset and does not have access to the 8211 records used to apply the update. For a deletion it seems there would need to be an Update Information with the geometry of the deletion (since the deleted feature/geom is gone) and to define a move or compound situation it might be useful to be able to make a compound UpdateInformation ( associations to other UpdateInformation features) or an Information type that is shared by the UpdateInformation features where the Information type carries the higher level contextual meaning for a set of UpdateInformation features. |
Refer to discussions at DCEG Sub-Group 4 meeting (September 2023), Paper S-101PT11-08.4, related decisions and Action S-101PT11-33. Changes applied for S-101 Edition 1.2.0 at DCEG clauses 3.12, 28.23 and 28.24; and Edition 1.1.0 attribute updateDescription removed. Close Issue. Open new Issue for feedback on implementation and testing for amendments to be made for Edition 2.0.0. |
Comment from T-Caris: DCEG section 3.11 Update Information remark one states that Additional Information about the update can be encoded as Nautical Information however the DCEG and FC does not include the association between UpdateInformation and Nautical Information.
Section 25.1 Additional Information does not list Update Information as being associated to Nautical Information.
Include optional association between Update Information and Nautical Information.
Additional comment: DCEG 3.11 Update Information does not describe whether/how Update Information can be used to describe changes to Information type content. Include optional association between Update Information and Nautical Information.
Suggested solution: Given that the information related to an ENC update as included in UpdateInformation is specific to a single update and therefore any additional information related to the update would likewise be specific to the update, it is proposed that rather than allowing the association of AdditionalInformation to the UpdateInformation feature, the complex attribute information is bound to the UpdateInformation feature itself.
For changes to Information types made by ENC Update, it is proposed that guidance is included at clause 3.11.1 to associate the UpdateInformation to the geo feature(s) to which the updated Information type is associated, rather than allowing the UpdateInformation to be directly associated to the Information type itself. The main consideration in proposing this option is the complexity of portraying the indication of the UpdateInformation in the ECDIS.
The resultant DCEG changes (clause 3.11) are as follows:
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