[Discussion] About Cloudflare

[hackerncoder]

Moving the discussion of Cloudflare from #1694: #1694 (comment) and #1694 (comment).

Any discussion of Cloudflare is welcome, not just based on the above.

[hackerncoder]

Do they actively try to suppress and/or hurt the TOR network itself (as you imply) or do they just block exit nodes?

They block exit nodes. I was speaking from feelings, that was wrong.

inclined to abuse public resources such as TOR exit nodes for actually nefarious and malicious purposes.

Yes.

I don't think it's a good idea to burden the TOR network with large amounts of data such as video

I don't think it's a problem. The Tor Network has a lot of unused bandwidth. Tor also needs cover traffic, e.g. day-to-day and other random traffic to keep others anonymous.

but that would indeed be a use-case where being behind CF may be adverse.

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If they really were against Tor, they would not do these things.

I was speaking from feelings, that was wrong.

And why do they make blog posts about how they are working to get TOR working?
https://blog.cloudflare.com/the-trouble-with-tor/

That's good. Also: https://blog.torproject.org/trouble-cloudflare.

<pedantic> It's Tor. Not TOR </pedantic>

[TheFrenchGhosty]

It's been a week an no one added something. Closing.

[ghost]

They block exit nodes.

But I can successfully visit the 3 Invidious instances marked with "uses Cloudflare" listed here using Tor Browser.

Note that browser console will display something like:
Alternate Service Mapping found: https://invidious.site:-1 to https://cflareub6dtu7nvs3kqmoigcjdwap2azrkx5zohb2yk7gqjkwoyotwqd.onion:443

Also note this Cloudflare post.

[github-actions]

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