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MSC2213: Rejoinability of private/invite-only rooms #2213

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@turt2live turt2live added proposal-in-review proposal A matrix spec change proposal labels Aug 2, 2019
@turt2live turt2live changed the title Proposal for rejoinability of private/invite-only rooms MSC2213: Rejoinability of private/invite-only rooms Aug 2, 2019
@turt2live turt2live added the unassigned-room-version Remove this label when things get versioned. label Aug 6, 2019
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Some thoughts upon the first read.

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turt2live commented Aug 28, 2019

This is a prerequisite for Canonical DMs and hasn't received a lot of traffic. We intend to make Canonical DMs a thing very soon, so in the interest of moving the ball forward:

@mscbot fcp merge

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mscbot commented Aug 28, 2019

This FCP proposal has been cancelled by #2213 (comment).

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Cancelling FCP proposal as this proposal lacks an implementation.

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1. If the previous membership is not explicitly `leave`, `rejoin_rule` does not apply.
For example, bans still ban, invites still invite, and never having been in the room
does not let you use `rejoin_rule` to get in.
2. If the `rejoin_rule` is `forbidden`, or implied to be `forbidden`, reject.
3. If the previous membership is explicitly `leave`, the server must look at the membership
previous to that membership to make a decision:
1. If the `rejoin_rule` is `join` and the membership previous to `leave` is not `join`
then reject. Else accept.
2. If the `rejoin_rule` is `invite` and the membership previous to `leave` is not
`join` or `invite`, reject. Else accept.
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1. If the previous membership is not explicitly `leave`, `rejoin_rule` does not apply.
For example, bans still ban, invites still invite, and never having been in the room
does not let you use `rejoin_rule` to get in.
2. If the `rejoin_rule` is `forbidden`, or implied to be `forbidden`, reject.
3. If the previous membership is explicitly `leave`, the server must look at the membership
previous to that membership to make a decision:
1. If the `rejoin_rule` is `join` and the membership previous to `leave` is not `join`
then reject. Else accept.
2. If the `rejoin_rule` is `invite` and the membership previous to `leave` is not
`join` or `invite`, reject. Else accept.
1. If the previous membership is not explicitly `leave`, `rejoin_rule` does not apply.
For example, bans still ban, invites still invite, and never having been in the room
does not let you use `rejoin_rule` to get in. The rejoin rule `block` is an exception,
where leaving a room for any reason prevents further rejoins, even if invited.
2. If the `rejoin_rule` is `forbidden`, or implied to be `forbidden`, reject.
3. If the previous membership is explicitly `leave`, the server must look at the membership
previous to that membership to make a decision:
1. If the `rejoin_rule` is `join` and the membership previous to `leave` is not `join`
then reject. Else accept.
2. If the `rejoin_rule` is `comeback` and the membership previous to `leave` is not
`join` or member was put into the leave state by some other member, then reject.
Else accept.
3. If the `rejoin_rule` is `invite` and the membership previous to `leave` is not
`join` or `invite`, reject. Else accept.

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* `invite`: Members which were previously invited or joined to the room can rejoin,
provided they are now not banned.

* `join`: Members which were previously joined to the room can rejoin, provided they
are now not banned.

* `forbidden`: This event cannot be used to authorize a rejoin (members must be
explicitly invited back into the room). This is the default.
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* `invite`: Members which were previously invited or joined to the room can rejoin,
provided they are now not banned.
* `join`: Members which were previously joined to the room can rejoin, provided they
are now not banned.
* `forbidden`: This event cannot be used to authorize a rejoin (members must be
explicitly invited back into the room). This is the default.
* `invite`: Members which were previously invited or joined to the room can rejoin,
provided they are now not banned.
*`comeback`: Members which were previously invited or joined to the room can rejoin,
provided they are now not kicked or banned.
* `join`: Members which were previously joined to the room can rejoin, provided they
are now not banned.
* `forbidden`: This event cannot be used to authorize a rejoin (members must be
explicitly invited back into the room). This is the default.
* `block`: A member quitting a room for any reason is treated as if irreversibly banned.

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Added comeback rejoin rule, which will prevent a kicked former member from rejoining unless invited back; and block rejoin rule where leaving a room will prevent from rejoining even if invited.

@turt2live turt2live added requires-room-version An idea which will require a bump in room version and removed unassigned-room-version Remove this label when things get versioned. labels Apr 6, 2021
@turt2live turt2live moved this from Awaiting SCT input to Temp column 001 in Spec Core Team Backlog Jun 8, 2021
@turt2live turt2live added the needs-implementation This MSC does not have a qualifying implementation for the SCT to review. The MSC cannot enter FCP. label Jun 8, 2021
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`m.room.join_rules` is expanded to have a new `rejoin_rule` field under `content`,
preserved by the redaction algorithm. The `rejoin_rule` must be one of:
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We probably want to add knock to the list of rejoin_rule options now that MSC2403 has merged.

I don't think restricted (MSC3083) or knock_restricted (MSC3787) would make much sense here unless you wanted to allow members to rejoin based on membership somewhere, but not allow new members to join based on that membership? Seems like a bit of an odd-case (and then you need to worry about the configuration of which rooms, etc.)

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