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Default: New jungletree_top texture #908

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@paramat paramat commented Mar 12, 2016

screenshot_20160322_193344

new_jungletree_top_cross4ind128

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new_jungletree_top_octagonal5_128

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new_jungletree_top_cross5_128

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Improvement of the current texture, with thicker lianas.
More of a diamond shape than a round-looking octagon. It could also be thought of as a squarish trunk rotated by 45 degrees.
See #611 and #880 for discussion and explanation of the structure, there are 4 thick (4x4 pixels) lianas at the corners of the node, made clearer by blurring the side texture:

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rosewood-stump-and-wastage-560x260

^ Rosewood

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ghost commented Mar 12, 2016

It look like "+"....

How about this?
screenshot_20160312_144012
default_jungletree_top

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I prefer the octagonal one to this one.

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Is it possible to make it less symmetrical?

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I think the inner "gold" band needs to be the darker green color of the outer bark of the tree.
otherwise I think Rui's is more fitting

20160312100125 default_jungletree_top
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paramat commented Mar 13, 2016

Napiophelios i find that and the current one too round-looking.
The bright ring is present in wenge and rosewood, which are the 2 closest matches to our jungletree.

I like the symmetry of mine because all our trunks are squarish and symmetrical. From the side texture the corner-lianas are 4 pixels wide in both dimensions, i made them square in cross section because all out trees are, this inevitably leaves a cross shape core.

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I can appreciate symmetry but it cant trump aesthetics.
Your latest proposal is very odd looking.

By putting so much detail into the vines you are detracting from the tree's core wood,
which is the point of the tree_top textures IMHO

No offense..just my opinion, but both textures (yours and mine) look more like kitchen floor tiles.
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I think Rui19's proposed texture is the best suggestion thus far;
it incorporates the light color band of inner bark and the rosewood core
and still adheres to the spirit/familiarity of the original cubic texture.

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+1 for this: https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/8843475/13721157/64074e7a-e860-11e5-81b4-1964a61ded97.png

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but both textures (yours and mine) look more like kitchen floor tiles.

That might be more of an upside than a downside. It has a creative use besides being a tree block.

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paramat commented Mar 14, 2016

Rui's texture ignores the lianas completely and flattens them to 1 pixel.

Please read through #611 and #880 for why my textures are like this. The lianas, which i am considering to be Strangler Fig, are really thick, 4 pixels, and are cutting into the trunk at each corner. It's in-character for them to have a square cross-section as all our trees do. If i made the central trunk square and smaller then there would be large areas of void seen from the top (as in our classic texture, areas of black pixels), which is difficult to blend into the side textures, this was the problem i had with my first attempt:

new_jungletree_toprgb2_128

Also, this attempt ignores the lianas and flattens them.

I agree my texture looks a little unusual at first, but i find it 'grows on you' and it starts to have a lovable quirky character.

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Currently, we are making very symmetrical textures.

However, if you look at the picture of Rosewood, it is not symmetrical in 4 directions. It's a sort of blob thing, not a circle.

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npmaier commented Mar 14, 2016

Longtime reader first time poster:

A blob, pixelated, would still be fitting for minetest, imo.
Also, an asymmetrical blob would fit more aesthetically with the wild
jungle vines already designed around the trunk and also the idea of a
jungle object.
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Currently, we are making very symmetrical textures.

However, if you look at the picture of Rosewood, it is not symmetrical in
4 directions. It's a sort of blob thing, not a circle.


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paramat commented Mar 22, 2016

I'll try working on this to have rounded corners like our other trees.

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paramat commented Mar 22, 2016

Updated with lots of anti-aliasing, smoothness etc.

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👍 for @Rui914

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paramat commented Mar 22, 2016

Rui's texture, like BlockMen's, removes the lianas completely, as if they are just areas of different coloured bark, and so are inconsistent with the side texture.

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Seems to me that the trunk should be round, not diamond-shaped.

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paramat commented Mar 23, 2016

I find round looks really out of place in Minetest.
I'm going to tweak this..

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@paramat if you are tweaking it can you contrast it a little more? Would look nicer for bumpmapping.

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paramat commented Mar 24, 2016

Updated. I think it has enough contrast, too much for some devs.
My collection of versions is becoming epic.

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I was referring to the center section. The edges is great. If the inner part looked more like rings with a bit of contrast then I think it would look nicer.

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PS : I don't think adding your own approval is legit.

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@ObaniGemini it is legit.

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paramat commented Mar 25, 2016

I want to keep the core rings subtle like the other trees.

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paramat commented Mar 25, 2016

Returned to my previous submission, the diamond one, but i have left a sample of the latest one in the first post as an alternative.

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paramat commented May 6, 2016

Unpopular so closing.

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paramat commented Mar 17, 2019

rosewood-logs-500x500

Heh just saw this image of rosewood logs.

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