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silent installation of NVDA isn't silent #6289
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I mean deploying with SCCM to a 'virtual machine' on Hyper-V. It looks like the machine does not support sount in this stage of deploying. installing. NVDA on a working virtual machine works fine, with the same command. (but with sound and pop-up) |
Are you saying the pop-up requires interaction or just that it appears?
I don't think we can (or should) make the installer entirely invisible
even for a silent install. It definitely shouldn't require any
interaction, though.
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no, the pop-up does not requires interaction. it just appears. I think that is not such a big problem. I think the sound is the problem. |
I agree with @WJdZ here. A sound logo makes sense for screen reading software, but for a silent installation, the current logo is too obnoxious, not mentioning the problem in the described situation where no sound card is available. |
Silent is perhaps not the correct term here. Most installers that run in "silent" mode still present something to the user; they just don't expect interaction. The better term would be "unattended". I don't think it's unreasonable to "present" something audible to the user; we're talking about a screen reader installer after all. That said, I'm unclear as to the more serious problem here. What happens when you try to install without an audio device? Does the installation fail? A log file would be helpful. Thanks. |
I understand that it is helpful by a screenreader installation that there is any audio signal what is happening. But the installation sometimes is done by systems like Microsoft System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM), and there is where it goes wrong. So if it would be possible that the switch-command “-m --minimal No sounds, no interface, no start message etc” that is described in the manual, really works it would be fine! Met vriendelijke groet, Willem Jan de Zwart systeembeheer, automatisering computerhulpmiddelen Koninklijke Visio Mijn ICT:http://mijnict/default.aspx voor al je ICT incidenten en (aan)vragen Van: James Teh [mailto:notifications@github.com] Silent is perhaps not the correct term here. Most installers that run in "silent" mode still present something to the user; they just don't expect interaction. The better term would be "unattended". I don't think it's unreasonable to "present" something audible to the user; we're talking about a screen reader installer after all. That said, I'm unclear as to the more serious problem here. What happens when you try to install without an audio device? Does the installation fail? A log file would be helpful. Thanks. — DISCLAIMER. De informatie verzonden met dit e-mailbericht is uitsluitend bestemd |
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I've been able to reproduce this:
Expected result: Everything runs as normal MCI Error Clicking OK throws this popup away, but as @WJdZ mentions, this is |
…e startup sound due to no sound card available. Re nvaccess#6289
Okay. Now that #6557 is merged, a warning dialog no longer appears when installing on a machine without audio. Is there still a problem we need to address here? As noted above, most unattended installers do present some sort of UI and I don't think it's unreasonable for this to be an audible UI for a screen reader. However, it should definitely not require interaction in this mode. |
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I want to install NVDA silent, quiet, with no sounds or pop-up screens because I want to use it to deploy with SCCM. Use following command: nvda_2016.2.1.exe --install-silent --minimal --log-level=20 --log-file=C:\NVDA.log Tested the command om a Windows 10 computer: Does not work properly: NVDA is installed, and the log-file is made. But there is a sound, and I see a pop-up.
Fixing this would require changes in the launcher as well in NVDA's code
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