PHP 8.1 - initial packaging

[GrahamCampbell]

I'm just wondering what your plan for PHP 8.0 is. Do you plan to start making php8.0 available from 8.0.0beta1, or just the RC releases, or even just the stable releases? I'm asking just so I can plan ahead for the next few weeks. That is, do I need to build PHP 8.0 myself, or will there be a pre-build extensions coming in August? :)

[sinbadxiii]

I join @GrahamCampbell, I am also interested in this question :)

[oerdnj]

[Edited for PHP 8.1]

I will start packaging the PHP 8.1 somewhere between beta1 and rc1 - depends on my free time (the time I could spend with my family doesn't count as "free").

Packaging extra PHP version is usually not that complicated once I did it so many times, but it's the extra extensions that require extra work - some of the extensions are compatible right away, but some require pulling patches from upstream or external repositories. It's hard to estimate how much time this will consume.

Last time, I was asked about estimate as incentive for packaging it rather sooner than later. For PHP 8.1 (including doing all the extra work for extensions), let's go for 3000,- EUR in total.

[krusic22]

There it is.

[brainexe]

FYI: Beta #2 is out, and #3 should follow this week. Is there a rouuughh timeline for this php8 package? I'm just planning to switch some development context already

[mvorisek]

@oerdnj can we have this issue reopened and can you write any estimate?

[oerdnj]

can we have this issue reopened

No, there’s no reason to it.

and can you write any estimate?

It will be done when it will be done. If you want a fixed estimate I can certainly give you a quote.

[GrahamCampbell]

Is the packaging code open source? That would allow community contributions.

[oerdnj]

Of course it is and it always was. The location is in the source package headers (https://salsa.debian.org/php-team/php).

[taylorotwell]

@oerdnj what is the quote for the fixed estimate? 💸 thanks

[oerdnj]

@taylorotwell $2000 for the PHP and $1000 for doing maintenance on the PECL extensions.

[ottok]

@taylorotwell Seravo can pay 1500€ if you pay the other half.

[taylorotwell]

@ottok OK. Email me (taylor at laravel dot com) and @oerdnj and we can coordinate?

[ottok]

Great! Send me invoicing details otto at seravo.com and we will pay. No paperwork for my part required, I trust Ondrej to keep his word due to our shared history.

I will be following https://salsa.debian.org/php-team/php/-/branches for upstream/8.0 branch to appear and will help testing once there are builds at https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php?field.series_filter=bionic.

[oerdnj]

Thanks, gentlemen, I’ll email you privately and start working on it tomorrow.

[oerdnj]

JFTR I've managed to update the extra patches today, got the PHP building and now it's only the Debian bits, several paths have changed and there are changes to extensions - JSON is now always included, so no php8.0-json, it's always there and xmlrpc extension has been moved to PECL, it needs to be re-packaged again.

[TomasVotruba]

This is just great 👍

@oerdnj I'd like to join these gentleman by adding 1000 $ from my @rectorphp company. For any unexpected issues that appear and as "thank you" for your long-term support on this project since PHP 5.4+.

Send me an invoice to tomas at getrector.org and we'll process it.

[stancl]

And for the rest of us who can't send large sums but have benefited from Ondřej's work in the past...

[oerdnj]

@TomasVotruba @stancl Thanks!

[oerdnj]

Anyway, the PHP 8.0.0~rc1 is available from https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php-qa

It's pretty much barebones and untested - the only guarantee is "it builds" for the moment. I will start updating the tooling around the new major version tonight or tomorrow and we'll see how it goes.

[alecpl]

Thank you. First issue I found. A lot of PEAR core libs in Ubuntu 18.04 needs update. "PHP Fatal error: Array and string offset access syntax with curly braces is no longer supported" is quite common there.

[oerdnj]

A lot of PEAR core libs in Ubuntu 18.04 needs update.

That's one package that's most painful to update :-(.

Thanks for preliminary testing.

[oerdnj]

@alecpl There's updated php-pear package, could you try whether it works out of the box now, please?

[alecpl]

Thanks, it's working now. I don't see any issues.

[oerdnj]

Couple of extensions have been also uploaded to php-qa; some packages are not building (yet) and it's a general mayhem, but I am making progress.

[alecpl]

Something's wrong with the apache module.

Syntax error on line 146 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 3 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php8.0.load: Can't locate API module structure `php8_module' in file /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp8.0.so: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp8.0.so: undefined symbol: php8_module

[krusic22]

Just replace 'php8_module' with 'php_module'.
Explained here.

[alecpl]

Worked. Thanks.

[owenparker]

I am wondering if anyone knows any timing on release of ssh2 for php8.0.

[todeveni]

I am wondering if anyone knows any timing on release of ssh2 for php8.0.

Not the best place for this question, but 10 days ago the timing for 1.3 release was "Working on it".
php/pecl-networking-ssh2#44

[oerdnj]

Reopening the issue as same conditions apply to PHP 8.1 packaging.

[oerdnj]

The beta3 has been uploaded to ppa:ondrej/php-qa repository, let's see what happens during the build...

[alecpl]

Everything works great. Thank you! I miss 'imagick' extension.

[thbley]

Looks good, thank you! Would be great to get apcu and pcov.

[rfay]

Working for ddev too in ddev/ddev#3198, thanks! Top of my wishlist is xdabug and xhprof :)

[joglomedia]

Some packages not available in 8.1 (joglomedia/LEMPer#106)

E: Unable to locate package php8.1-gnupg
E: Couldn't find any package by glob 'php8.1-gnupg'
E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'php8.1-gnupg'
E: Unable to locate package php8.1-xmlrpc
E: Couldn't find any package by glob 'php8.1-xmlrpc'
E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'php8.1-xmlrpc'
E: Unable to locate package php8.1-swoole
E: Couldn't find any package by glob 'php8.1-swoole'
E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'php8.1-swoole'

The packages are available on older versions

Do you plan to add them? or there any alternative?

Thanks

[gvollant]

PHP 8.1 release candidate is here.

the PHP_API_VERSION constant (in php.h) changed from 20201009 (in beta) to 20210902 (in release candidate).
Based on previous PHP version, I suppose the PHP_API_VERSION value from RC is the final value.

php extension binary build againt current PHP 8.1 package (beta) will be incompatible with PHP 8.1 RC and final.

So, if this is possible for you, @oerdnj , I think it'll be useful if you can update your package to RC. So we will start produce binary without compatibility problem.

regards, and thank you for the work!

[oerdnj]

php extension binary build against current PHP 8.1 package (beta) will be incompatible with PHP 8.1 RC and final.

Yup, that's why I am waiting with building the PECL extensions until the PHPAPI stabilizes...

So, if this is possible for you, @oerdnj , I think it'll be useful if you can update your package to RC. So we will start produce binary without compatibility problem.

On it...

[gvollant]

It is done. Thank you a lot !

[rfay]

Thanks so much for all of this. Could we get xdebug in soon?

I'm doing a major release of ddev in the next few days and it would be oh-so-lovely if we could have xdebug for php8.1.0RC1 in there. I took a quick look at pecl install xdebug-3.1.0beta2 and it seemed to be fine, so it would be lovely to see it.

And @derickr is quite confident of it with PHP8.1, https://twitter.com/derickr/status/1438554237177372684

[TomasVotruba]

Hi @oerdnj,

I would like to thank you for your endless work you do for our PHP community 👏 👍 ❤️

Not just in words, but also chip in sponsoring from last year. Could you send me an invoice for 1000 $?

[oerdnj]

Thanks @TomasVotruba, this is much appreciated!

[rfay]

Looking forward to seeing PHP8.1-RC3 here :) Thanks!

[rfay]

Thanks for getting php RC4 in there.

Really, really hoping for php8.1-xdebug (especially now that xdebug 3.1.1 is in there, and should work fine with php 8.1).

Also, please bump uploadprogress to current 2.0.2 so it will work with both php 8.0 and 8.1 (really bad right now). https://pecl.php.net/package/uploadprogress

[gvollant]

PHP 8.1 release candidate is here.

the PHP_API_VERSION constant (in php.h) changed from 20201009 (in beta) to 20210902 (in release candidate). Based on previous PHP version, I suppose the PHP_API_VERSION value from RC is the final value.

php extension binary build againt current PHP 8.1 package (beta) will be incompatible with PHP 8.1 RC and final.

So, if this is possible for you, @oerdnj , I think it'll be useful if you can update your package to RC. So we will start produce binary without compatibility problem.

regards, and thank you for the work!

@oerdnj we are in the same point with PHP 8.2 RC. Is it possible upgrade the package ?