Skip to content
New issue

Have a question about this project? Sign up for a free GitHub account to open an issue and contact its maintainers and the community.

By clicking “Sign up for GitHub”, you agree to our terms of service and privacy statement. We’ll occasionally send you account related emails.

Already on GitHub? Sign in to your account

Start updates discussion in open-app Loomio group #58

Closed
simontegg opened this issue Jun 18, 2015 · 4 comments
Closed

Start updates discussion in open-app Loomio group #58

simontegg opened this issue Jun 18, 2015 · 4 comments
Assignees
Labels

Comments

@simontegg
Copy link
Contributor

I'm feeling blocked on this because I haven't seen much visible progress on other tasks that we've collectively agreed are important.

@simontegg
Copy link
Contributor Author

A lack of visible progress on tasks does not give me much confidence for fronting any comms. Particularly given recent history.

@ahdinosaur
Copy link
Contributor

between Craftworks facilitation, leading a push for NodeSchool Wellington, helping bring Cobudget dev back to life, and learning how to crawl, i've been juggling a bit, but still trudging forward. 😸 i'm trying my best and for once i feel happy, so not sure what else to do. how do you feel @simontegg?

@simontegg
Copy link
Contributor Author

The issue is that people (both internal and external) will unavoidably overlay expectations onto any comm unless the comms are made super explicit. So if the comms says "Mikey will work fulltime on holodex.", they will overlay an expectation of what that means based on their own experience.

For most people, this means "Mikey will treat Holodex as his full time job" -> which means "all kinds of tasks that aren't necessarily fun will be completed based on someone with a high degree of stakeholding (essentially a "founder") toiling away" -> which means "As a stakeholder, I can expect regular, significant improvement to the value I receive from Holodex". These expectations form in other's minds, but since that is completely natural I believe its the responsibility of the communicator to mitigate thee formation of these perhaps unrealistic expectations.

This situation does not appear to be the case. Initiating but not meeting expectations is a major anti-pattern both internally and externally (IMO).

If we communicate our commitment accurately we can avoid this and reach a good state, perhaps even a virtuous cycle. At the moment because there is a vicious cycle where the uncertainty created by poor communication makes me feel reluctant to commit to Holodex. -> "Who will do all the necessary but not so fun tasks? Me?"

@ahdinosaur
Copy link
Contributor

cool, thanks @simontegg for sharing. 👍

so is your perception that i'm not committed to the necessary but not so fun tasks? the only task i'm focused on at the moment is #56 (except minor issue management and loomio comms edits). i understand if i haven't produced much in the way of visible output from my work, but i'd much rather we as a team to value effort over output.

if the problem is feeling like another team member isn't putting in the effort they committed to, maybe time tracking would be a great indicator for our effort (or lack thereof) and possibly help with this problem, or am i misinterpreting the problem? admittedly this week has been hectic for me, feeling like i'm constantly context switching, but at least you'd be able to have visibility into that, plus it'd help me measure and experiment with how to organize my work life so i'm putting in the hours i want into Holodex.

@simontegg simontegg reopened this Jun 20, 2015
@simontegg simontegg changed the title [Blocked] Start updates discussion in open-app Loomio group Start updates discussion in open-app Loomio group Jun 20, 2015
@simontegg simontegg removed the blocked label Jun 24, 2015
@ahdinosaur ahdinosaur removed the ready label Aug 2, 2016
Sign up for free to join this conversation on GitHub. Already have an account? Sign in to comment
Labels
Projects
None yet
Development

No branches or pull requests

2 participants