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Menu Category "All applications" not have sense... #41

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ghost opened this issue Jun 9, 2014 · 10 comments
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Menu Category "All applications" not have sense... #41

ghost opened this issue Jun 9, 2014 · 10 comments

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@ghost
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ghost commented Jun 9, 2014

Normally the virtual category "All applications" it's just for have a way to search in the menu using different structure(order criterion). The menu structure provide a separation by categories. It makes sense separate the applications again using the same structure? On my opinion not.

Do you want to have a singular Menu? See some ideas:

https://github.com/lestcape/Configurable-Menu

You can clone the layout that you want, or also all layouts if you want, or you can merge some features to create a new one...

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ghost commented Jun 9, 2014

And this is a good project!!!

@ikeydoherty
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Hiya, I'm not completely sure what you mean. Right now, I just pull the default categories from the .desktop files (using gnome's menu libraries) - as I'm sure you know they're usually completely unhelpful and make no sense to the user, but that is the categories I have :)

How do you propose to deal with cases wherein we know nothing about the application other than the data provided in the .desktop file?

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ghost commented Jun 9, 2014

You have categories, inside the category "All Applications"... This is only the thing that i try to say... This not have sense for the user, because the menu also have a visual structure with categories. If you want to have the "all applications" category, this will be for search an application with a different criteria. For example the alphabetical order. I do not speak internally, i speak about the interface.

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ghost commented Jun 9, 2014

On other words you don't need the "All applications" category (not in this way, because not help). Search in the menu using categories can help, but the category "All Applications" not.

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ghost commented Jun 9, 2014

You can disagree with that, but i hope that now you can understand the thing that i try to say... Sorry for my english... I know it's not good.

Thanks for work that you are done!!!
Best regards...

@ikeydoherty
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OK, so you want to kill the all applications category? I'm open to it, it's not very useful I guess, and
a left over artefact from the desktops of yesteryear.. (GNOME2) - I'll need to think about it first :)

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robxu9 commented Jun 9, 2014

IMHO - I feel like it'd be neat to have two views - one, which displays all applications in an icon view, and the other, which is how we have it now.

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ghost commented Jun 9, 2014

@ikeydoherty Yes, but also can be the idea of @robxu9. I only try to say that the current way not help... If you change the order criteria, could be useful, but not like the current way. If you repeat the same menu structure, not help on any thing.

Why people want to see the category "all applications"?

On my opinion because he don't know in what category can found the application. If he know the category of the application, is better go directly to this category on menu(not to "all applications"). So organise "all application" using categories not help, but using a different approach could be.

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ghost commented Jun 9, 2014

You can also add another category, like "Most Used Applications" or just "Favorites". Any of this categories can be the default one, also with the same structure of the current "All Applications".

If you like to add "most used", go to gnome shell, there are an implementation to count global applications usage... On Cinnamon is disabled. And if you want Favorites, simple add a list of favorites to the gsettings, and create a signal for Favorites changes.

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Closing as I just don't get what needs doing here - but as an opening return I have introduced a plugin API - which will allow new people to add their own menu designs and applets to replace the current one :)

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