i3 feature support #2

SirCmpwn · Aug 9, 2015

Nice write up! Especially looking for a i3 statusbar

onny · Aug 9, 2015

Nice write up! Especially looking for a i3 statusbar

It'll probably be a while before I tackle i3bar (swaybar?)

SirCmpwn · Aug 9, 2015

It'll probably be a while before I tackle i3bar (swaybar?)

exec implemented.

SirCmpwn · Aug 9, 2015

exec implemented.

Today we implemented splith, splitv, fullscreen, and focus. Thanks for helping out, @jdiez17!

SirCmpwn · Aug 10, 2015

Today we implemented splith, splitv, fullscreen, and focus. Thanks for helping out, @jdiez17!

workspace [name] done.

jdiez17 · Aug 10, 2015

workspace [name] done.

You forgot the scratchpad functionality.

progandy · Aug 16, 2015

You forgot the scratchpad functionality.

Good call.

SirCmpwn · Aug 16, 2015

Good call.

Nice, I have been looking at i3way but there's no single line of code after so many years.

I want to propose a feature request though, which i3 developers ignored: A tiling mode for binary space layout representing windows as the leaves of a full binary tree, very similar to default window tiling mode that comes with bspwm. It could be very handy letting the software manage my windows(specially terminals) instead of managing the arrangement in a single desktop. I don't want to break any compatibility though so I am hoping it does not.

Also an option to set the gap between windows would be nice. This was done in i3 but by a third party git fork. I don't know why it was deemed not a necessity by i3 developers.

BTW This project should also get its own website.

Swoorup · Aug 18, 2015

Nice, I have been looking at i3way but there's no single line of code after so many years.

I want to propose a feature request though, which i3 developers ignored: A tiling mode for binary space layout representing windows as the leaves of a full binary tree, very similar to default window tiling mode that comes with bspwm. It could be very handy letting the software manage my windows(specially terminals) instead of managing the arrangement in a single desktop. I don't want to break any compatibility though so I am hoping it does not.

Also an option to set the gap between windows would be nice. This was done in i3 but by a third party git fork. I don't know why it was deemed not a necessity by i3 developers.

BTW This project should also get its own website.

I want to propose a feature request though, which i3 developers ignored: A tiling mode for binary space layout representing windows as the leaves of a full binary tree, very similar to default window tiling mode that comes with bspwm. It could be very handy letting the software manage my windows(specially terminals) instead of managing the arrangement in a single desktop. I don't want to break any compatibility though so I am hoping it does not.

Perhaps eventually. That doesn't sound like it needs to be a high priority.

Also an option to set the gap between windows would be nice. This was done in i3 but by a third party git fork. I don't know why it was deemed not a necessity by i3 developers.

This is in the list of features to add.

BTW This project should also get its own website.

Yeah, it'll have one eventually.

SirCmpwn · Aug 18, 2015

I want to propose a feature request though, which i3 developers ignored: A tiling mode for binary space layout representing windows as the leaves of a full binary tree, very similar to default window tiling mode that comes with bspwm. It could be very handy letting the software manage my windows(specially terminals) instead of managing the arrangement in a single desktop. I don't want to break any compatibility though so I am hoping it does not.

Perhaps eventually. That doesn't sound like it needs to be a high priority.

Also an option to set the gap between windows would be nice. This was done in i3 but by a third party git fork. I don't know why it was deemed not a necessity by i3 developers.

This is in the list of features to add.

BTW This project should also get its own website.

Yeah, it'll have one eventually.

Also an option to set the gap between windows would be nice. This was done in i3 but by a third >party git fork. I don't know why it was deemed not a necessity by i3 developers.

Due to it not fitting the i3 way, which means using all the screen space. I can understand why, but that doesn't mean this project has to enforce the same rules.

Half-Shot · Aug 18, 2015

Also an option to set the gap between windows would be nice. This was done in i3 but by a third >party git fork. I don't know why it was deemed not a necessity by i3 developers.

Due to it not fitting the i3 way, which means using all the screen space. I can understand why, but that doesn't mean this project has to enforce the same rules.

Will have a go at the move command. Should have some results tonight.

Half-Shot · Aug 18, 2015

Will have a go at the move command. Should have some results tonight.

Hi. I want to propose a feature request: vertical bar. I think the easiest way is to only do a 90° rotation. The text orientation should be configurable: bottom to top, or top to bottom.

robinmoussu · Aug 18, 2015

Hi. I want to propose a feature request: vertical bar. I think the easiest way is to only do a 90° rotation. The text orientation should be configurable: bottom to top, or top to bottom.

Will consider that once we hit feature parity with i3.

SirCmpwn · Aug 18, 2015

Will consider that once we hit feature parity with i3.

Sway looks like a really great project. I love i3, and the lack of something similar is the only thing that has been stopping me from giving Wayland a try. Great work so far!

However, looking at the list above, I see that sway is still missing tabbed layout, which is essential for my workflow; I use it heavily in i3. This is the main thing stopping me from trying out sway at this point. I could live without the other missing features.

Once tabbed layout is done, I will try playing around with sway. I am really looking forward to it. Hope to catch/report some bugs and maybe contribute some patches.

I honestly think this project has the potential to eventually become even better than i3.

rayvector · Aug 18, 2015

Sway looks like a really great project. I love i3, and the lack of something similar is the only thing that has been stopping me from giving Wayland a try. Great work so far!

However, looking at the list above, I see that sway is still missing tabbed layout, which is essential for my workflow; I use it heavily in i3. This is the main thing stopping me from trying out sway at this point. I could live without the other missing features.

Once tabbed layout is done, I will try playing around with sway. I am really looking forward to it. Hope to catch/report some bugs and maybe contribute some patches.

I honestly think this project has the potential to eventually become even better than i3.

The tabbed layout is sort of blocked by the lack of borders.

SirCmpwn · Aug 18, 2015

The tabbed layout is sort of blocked by the lack of borders.

@Swoorup This is off-topic, but

This was done in i3 but by a third party git fork. I don't know why it was deemed not a necessity by i3 developers.

We don't want this in i3 for many reasons. For one, the i3-gaps patch (of which I am the maintainer) is really more of a hack (for example, window decorations don't work with it). But that could be solved. However, gaps violate the i3 tiling philosophy and that is why they will never be found in i3 itself.

Being a collaborator of i3 I understand this reasoning, being the maintainer of i3-gaps I obviously personally prefer gaps, though. ;)

Airblader · Aug 18, 2015

@Swoorup This is off-topic, but

This was done in i3 but by a third party git fork. I don't know why it was deemed not a necessity by i3 developers.

We don't want this in i3 for many reasons. For one, the i3-gaps patch (of which I am the maintainer) is really more of a hack (for example, window decorations don't work with it). But that could be solved. However, gaps violate the i3 tiling philosophy and that is why they will never be found in i3 itself.

Being a collaborator of i3 I understand this reasoning, being the maintainer of i3-gaps I obviously personally prefer gaps, though. ;)

Would it be sensible to have our own wallpaper management, or somehow hook into a process like feh?
(and as on a sidenote, how would I hint to sway/wlc that a surface should be drawn behind everything?)

Half-Shot · Aug 19, 2015

Would it be sensible to have our own wallpaper management, or somehow hook into a process like feh?
(and as on a sidenote, how would I hint to sway/wlc that a surface should be drawn behind everything?)

No, we'll have something like feh for you to use instead.

SirCmpwn · Aug 19, 2015

No, we'll have something like feh for you to use instead.

And you can't do that hinting, I've been asking @Cloudef for it in wlc for a while.

SirCmpwn · Aug 19, 2015

And you can't do that hinting, I've been asking @Cloudef for it in wlc for a while.

hi,
can you add the support to layout keyboard azerty.

tiregram · Sep 10, 2015

hi,
can you add the support to layout keyboard azerty.

That's not really our problem, it's wlc's problem. And wlc let's you set it through XKB environment variables, XKB_DEFAULT_LAYOUT.

SirCmpwn · Sep 10, 2015

That's not really our problem, it's wlc's problem. And wlc let's you set it through XKB environment variables, XKB_DEFAULT_LAYOUT.

@SirCmpwn In the longterm, sway should implement configuration options for input and output devices, but that has to wait until wlc implements an API for that. Maybe even provide some ipc options to allow dynamic changes like xinput/xrandr.
Cloudef/wlc#6
Cloudef/wlc#37

progandy · Sep 10, 2015

@SirCmpwn In the longterm, sway should implement configuration options for input and output devices, but that has to wait until wlc implements an API for that. Maybe even provide some ipc options to allow dynamic changes like xinput/xrandr.
Cloudef/wlc#6
Cloudef/wlc#37

Sway already does provide configuration options to alter the size, position, and status(on/off) of monitors. As of right now dynamic changes are not available though.

Luminarys · Sep 10, 2015

Sway already does provide configuration options to alter the size, position, and status(on/off) of monitors. As of right now dynamic changes are not available though.

Sorry , but the other keyboard are not supported on my pc (fr).
I know i just need to export XKB_DEFAULT_LAYOUT=fr
But i can't use number to switch to other worspace, because on fr keyboard the "1" is "&" and & was forbiden.
Message log:
Bindsym - unknow key &.
Can you help me ?

tiregram · Sep 12, 2015

Sorry , but the other keyboard are not supported on my pc (fr).
I know i just need to export XKB_DEFAULT_LAYOUT=fr
But i can't use number to switch to other worspace, because on fr keyboard the "1" is "&" and & was forbiden.
Message log:
Bindsym - unknow key &.
Can you help me ?

I used to use bindcode in i3 for unknown symbols. I'm guessing another wlc feature.
On 12 Sep 2015 11:54, tiregram notifications@github.com wrote:Sorry , but the other keyboard are not supported on my pc (fr).
I know i just need to export XKB_DEFAULT_LAYOUT=fr
But i can't use number to switch to other worspace, because on fr keyboard the "1" is "&" and & was forbiden.
Message log:
Bindsym - unknow key &.
Can you help me ?

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Half-Shot · Sep 12, 2015

I used to use bindcode in i3 for unknown symbols. I'm guessing another wlc feature.
On 12 Sep 2015 11:54, tiregram notifications@github.com wrote:Sorry , but the other keyboard are not supported on my pc (fr).
I know i just need to export XKB_DEFAULT_LAYOUT=fr
But i can't use number to switch to other worspace, because on fr keyboard the "1" is "&" and & was forbiden.
Message log:
Bindsym - unknow key &.
Can you help me ?

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bindcode isn't supported on sway yet. Try binding "ampersand".

SirCmpwn · Sep 12, 2015

bindcode isn't supported on sway yet. Try binding "ampersand".

yes i have try but i have the message.
Bindsym - unknow key &
on the tty, this message error was genenrate by the line:
command.c:154
because you check
xkb_keysym_from_name(split->items[i], XKB_KEYSYM_CASE_INSENSITIVE);

tiregram · Sep 13, 2015

yes i have try but i have the message.
Bindsym - unknow key &
on the tty, this message error was genenrate by the line:
command.c:154
because you check
xkb_keysym_from_name(split->items[i], XKB_KEYSYM_CASE_INSENSITIVE);

Updated with features from i3 4.11.

SirCmpwn · Oct 28, 2015

Updated with features from i3 4.11.

Not strictly an i3 feature, but since there is no root window on Wayland, sway now supports setting your wallpaper from the sway config. See man 5 sway for details.

SirCmpwn · Nov 20, 2015

Not strictly an i3 feature, but since there is no root window on Wayland, sway now supports setting your wallpaper from the sway config. See man 5 sway for details.

Is it possible to start a program as floating with Sway?

Manouchehri · Nov 21, 2015

Is it possible to start a program as floating with Sway?

Not yet, no.

SirCmpwn · Nov 21, 2015

Not yet, no.

@SirCmpwn Would it be possible to change the layout of a window to floating via sway command or sway-msg? Also, what exactly is the proper way of using sway [command]? Every combination I tried just ended up spawning a new sway instance.

Manouchehri · Nov 21, 2015

@SirCmpwn Would it be possible to change the layout of a window to floating via sway command or sway-msg? Also, what exactly is the proper way of using sway [command]? Every combination I tried just ended up spawning a new sway instance.

sway [command] does not work yet (sorry). You can use i3-msg, it'll work on sway. Use the floating toggle command to change the focused window to floating and back, just like i3.

SirCmpwn · Nov 21, 2015

sway [command] does not work yet (sorry). You can use i3-msg, it'll work on sway. Use the floating toggle command to change the focused window to floating and back, just like i3.

Ah, that makes sense; I blindly trusted the man page. Thanks, I'll give that a try!

Manouchehri · Nov 21, 2015

Ah, that makes sense; I blindly trusted the man page. Thanks, I'll give that a try!

I just pushed swaymsg.

SirCmpwn · Nov 26, 2015

I just pushed swaymsg.

Good news: swaybar is working! It's not completely compatible with i3bar, though. I've made a new issue, #343, specifically to track the progress of i3bar feature parity.

SirCmpwn · Dec 17, 2015

Good news: swaybar is working! It's not completely compatible with i3bar, though. I've made a new issue, #343, specifically to track the progress of i3bar feature parity.

That's pretty cool! You guys move fast. Out of curiosity, do you have a screenshot?

Airblader · Dec 17, 2015

That's pretty cool! You guys move fast. Out of curiosity, do you have a screenshot?

Thanks!

SirCmpwn · Apr 7, 2017

Thanks!

We don't actually have access to window_role. Not everything that works on x makes sense on Wayland, I'm afraid.

@SirCmpwn Is there an equivalent in Wayland as far as you know? For example I often use window_role="pop_up" which is common for things intended to be dialogs. When investigating with xprop, window_role was the only distinguishing factor IIRC.

rosshadden · May 9, 2017

We don't actually have access to window_role. Not everything that works on x makes sense on Wayland, I'm afraid.

@SirCmpwn Is there an equivalent in Wayland as far as you know? For example I often use window_role="pop_up" which is common for things intended to be dialogs. When investigating with xprop, window_role was the only distinguishing factor IIRC.

Not really, no.

SirCmpwn · May 9, 2017

Not really, no.

Can we add i3-input to the list?

auscompgeek · Jun 1, 2017

Can we add i3-input to the list?

Eh, I'm not sure that's worth supporting. It's kind of a stupid feature. I'd just use dmenu. Maybe we can add a script that utilizes dmenu for this purpose, I guess.

SirCmpwn · Jun 1, 2017

Eh, I'm not sure that's worth supporting. It's kind of a stupid feature. I'd just use dmenu. Maybe we can add a script that utilizes dmenu for this purpose, I guess.

I'll just direct people to this comment if anyone else asks for sway-input.

#!/bin/sh
format="%s"
dmenu="dmenu"
swaymsg="swaymsg"
while [ $# -gt 0 ]
do
    case $1 in
        -s)
            swaymsg="$swaymsg -s '$2'"
            shift
            ;;
        -F)
            format="$2"
            shift
            ;;
        -f)
            dmenu="$dmenu -fn '$2'"
            shift
            ;;
        -P)
            dmenu="$dmenu -p '$2'"
            shift
            ;;
        -l)
            echo "Warning: -l is not supported"
            ;;
        -v)
            exec swaymsg -v
            ;;
        *)
            echo "Unknown argument '$1'" >&2
            exit 1
            ;;
    esac
    shift
done
cmd=$(eval $dmenu < /dev/null)
[ $? -ne 0 ] && exit $?
cmd=$(printf "$format" "$cmd")
eval $swaymsg "$cmd"
exit $?

SirCmpwn · Jun 1, 2017

I'll just direct people to this comment if anyone else asks for sway-input.

#!/bin/sh
format="%s"
dmenu="dmenu"
swaymsg="swaymsg"
while [ $# -gt 0 ]
do
    case $1 in
        -s)
            swaymsg="$swaymsg -s '$2'"
            shift
            ;;
        -F)
            format="$2"
            shift
            ;;
        -f)
            dmenu="$dmenu -fn '$2'"
            shift
            ;;
        -P)
            dmenu="$dmenu -p '$2'"
            shift
            ;;
        -l)
            echo "Warning: -l is not supported"
            ;;
        -v)
            exec swaymsg -v
            ;;
        *)
            echo "Unknown argument '$1'" >&2
            exit 1
            ;;
    esac
    shift
done
cmd=$(eval $dmenu < /dev/null)
[ $? -ne 0 ] && exit $?
cmd=$(printf "$format" "$cmd")
eval $swaymsg "$cmd"
exit $?

@SirCmpwn regarding the vertical monitor support, could this be added here or addressed in a new issue? Would love to use Sway as soon as that's supported.

AndreasBackx · Jul 22, 2017

@SirCmpwn regarding the vertical monitor support, could this be added here or addressed in a new issue? Would love to use Sway as soon as that's supported.

It's already supported in wlroots.

SirCmpwn · Jul 22, 2017

It's already supported in wlroots.

Neat! Thank you, I'll give it a shot as soon as I get back from my holiday!

AndreasBackx · Jul 22, 2017

Neat! Thank you, I'll give it a shot as soon as I get back from my holiday!

I've been toying w/ the idea of trying out Sway, and I've been looking through the man-pages trying to find an answer to this question: given that sway would manage my monitors, how would I rotate one? Or is it not yet possible?

I didn't see where that was one of the documented options.

Apologies if this is not the most appropriate place to ask this question.

educatedCaveman · Sep 27, 2017

I've been toying w/ the idea of trying out Sway, and I've been looking through the man-pages trying to find an answer to this question: given that sway would manage my monitors, how would I rotate one? Or is it not yet possible?

I didn't see where that was one of the documented options.

Apologies if this is not the most appropriate place to ask this question.

You could read 3 comments up from your own, perhaps?

SirCmpwn · Sep 27, 2017

You could read 3 comments up from your own, perhaps?

yeah, sorry, I'm a moron. searched for "rotate" and "output", but not "monitor" or "vertical". sorry again.

educatedCaveman · Sep 27, 2017

yeah, sorry, I'm a moron. searched for "rotate" and "output", but not "monitor" or "vertical". sorry again.

Is there a parallel for set_from_resources on Wayland? I used it with wal to set custom, consistent color schemes on all apps, including i3.

ranisalt · Oct 5, 2017

Is there a parallel for set_from_resources on Wayland? I used it with wal to set custom, consistent color schemes on all apps, including i3.

No. Resources are specific to X11.

SirCmpwn · Oct 5, 2017

No. Resources are specific to X11.

Nice. I found include which is much more powerful than set_from_resources was for me. Just for documentation, here's what I've done 😄

ranisalt · Oct 5, 2017

Nice. I found include which is much more powerful than set_from_resources was for me. Just for documentation, here's what I've done 😄

What about 9p and Lua support?

timofonic · Oct 12, 2017

What about 9p and Lua support?

What does i3 have to do with 9p and Lua?

SirCmpwn · Oct 12, 2017

What does i3 have to do with 9p and Lua?

Would real transparency qualify as an i3 feature?
See comment from Hi-Angel: #2 (comment)
and this issue: #973

It's not directly a feature of i3, but I assume it was present on many i3 setups, and AIUI sway would be the place to have it implemented since it does the compositing?

camoz · Nov 21, 2017

Would real transparency qualify as an i3 feature?
See comment from Hi-Angel: #2 (comment)
and this issue: #973

It's not directly a feature of i3, but I assume it was present on many i3 setups, and AIUI sway would be the place to have it implemented since it does the compositing?

If transparency did. Shadows should too. But those are things that should be implemented after wlroots.

Kommynct · Nov 21, 2017

If transparency did. Shadows should too. But those are things that should be implemented after wlroots.

Hi, Sway/i3 beginner here. I've just loaded my termite setup and it's fine except for one thing, I use a very dim translucent background and noticed that when I go fullscreen, the sway topbar doesn't hide. Is there support to hide it away (I mean, when there's transparency) when applications go fullscreen?

oblitum · Dec 2, 2017

Hi, Sway/i3 beginner here. I've just loaded my termite setup and it's fine except for one thing, I use a very dim translucent background and noticed that when I go fullscreen, the sway topbar doesn't hide. Is there support to hide it away (I mean, when there's transparency) when applications go fullscreen?

No.

SirCmpwn · Dec 2, 2017

No.

@SirCmpwn Any plans? I asked here because of #1158 (comment).

oblitum · Dec 2, 2017

@SirCmpwn Any plans? I asked here because of #1158 (comment).

Specifically #1158 asks about i3's hide mode, which for me would work as good too.

oblitum · Dec 2, 2017

Specifically #1158 asks about i3's hide mode, which for me would work as good too.

hide mode is planned.

SirCmpwn · Dec 2, 2017

hide mode is planned.

Nice :)

oblitum · Dec 2, 2017

Nice :)

Saving layouts to disk will not support
Loading layouts from disk will not support

I use that feature in i3 :/ .

I imagine it isn't too hard to implement this outside of i3 using i3-msg.

Is i3-msg -t get_tree still going to be supported?

talwrii · Jan 1, 2018

Saving layouts to disk will not support
Loading layouts from disk will not support

I use that feature in i3 :/ .

I imagine it isn't too hard to implement this outside of i3 using i3-msg.

Is i3-msg -t get_tree still going to be supported?

Yes, get_tree already works and has worked for some time.

SirCmpwn · Jan 1, 2018

Yes, get_tree already works and has worked for some time.

I made a script that may be useful for

workspace
- left/right/up/down

https://github.com/sharpTrick/set-i3-workspace

sharpTrick · Jan 23, 2018

I made a script that may be useful for

workspace
- left/right/up/down

https://github.com/sharpTrick/set-i3-workspace

Nice work! Expecting "Restart in-place".

hyiltiz · Jan 26, 2018

Nice work! Expecting "Restart in-place".

@progandy

I use that for my keybindings so that I can easily rename a workspace while keepig the hotkey.

Could you please clarify how you are renaming workspaces in sway? swaymsg doesn't appear to support the rename command (e.g. in i3: i3-msg 'rename workspace 5 to 6')

ammgws · Jan 27, 2018

@progandy

I use that for my keybindings so that I can easily rename a workspace while keepig the hotkey.

Could you please clarify how you are renaming workspaces in sway? swaymsg doesn't appear to support the rename command (e.g. in i3: i3-msg 'rename workspace 5 to 6')

@ammgws

Could you please clarify how you are renaming workspaces in sway?

In most cases I start with a fresh workspace and give it a name, e.g. swaymsg workspace 5:new_project. My main environment is still i3, though. If I really have to do it in sway, then I can do something like this.

#!/bin/bash
topfocus=""
for i in {1..20}; do
   topfocus="focus parent ; $topfocus"
done
swaymsg "$topfocus" move container to workspace "$1" ';' workspace "$1"

progandy · Jan 27, 2018

@ammgws

Could you please clarify how you are renaming workspaces in sway?

In most cases I start with a fresh workspace and give it a name, e.g. swaymsg workspace 5:new_project. My main environment is still i3, though. If I really have to do it in sway, then I can do something like this.

#!/bin/bash
topfocus=""
for i in {1..20}; do
   topfocus="focus parent ; $topfocus"
done
swaymsg "$topfocus" move container to workspace "$1" ';' workspace "$1"

Cheers, I guess that's what I'll have to do for now.

ammgws · Jan 28, 2018

Cheers, I guess that's what I'll have to do for now.

@progandy why the loop that does nothing but set a variable?

hyiltiz · Jan 28, 2018

@progandy why the loop that does nothing but set a variable?

@hyiltiz that should add instead of replace... topfocus="focus parent ; $topfocus"

progandy · Jan 29, 2018

@hyiltiz that should add instead of replace... topfocus="focus parent ; $topfocus"

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