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Ask delegates to tell if they used o-rings, and why not if they didn't. #1942

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@@ -18,6 +18,7 @@ def equipment_default
self.equipment = "Gen 2 Timer: 0
Gen 3 Pro Timer: 0
Gen 4 Pro Timer: 0
Did you attach O-rings (or something similar) to the timers to prevent pressing buttons by accident? If not, please explain why.
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Perhaps mention both buttons explicitly?

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Did you attach O-rings (or something similar) to both main timer buttons (power button, reset button) to prevent pressing them by accident? If not, please explain why.

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That suggests that people might attach O-rings to only one button. Why would or could someone do that?

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I could see someone just covering the reset button since all the talk is about "timer resets". I guess we wouldn't know for sure unless we explicitly ask about covering both of them.

Alternatively, we could ask a more generic question like: "Did you make any modifications to the timer? If you did, please explain what modifications you made, and if you did not, please explain why you did not".

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The power button also causes a reset. ;-)

I think we should aim to have a default answer (and ask if people deviated from that default), so that it's easy for Delegates to answer, and for a reader to see if it's the default answer.

I think O-rings (or similar) over both buttons is a good default, since that is a safe future state to aim for.

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Our gen 3 pro timers are equipped with only o ring on the reset button, basically because the power button is hard enough to reach.

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Hmm... I can't remember that. 😕
Anyway, although it's unlikely to reach the power button with your thumb when stopping, it can be pushed by a puzzle falling on the button. I think that's how at least some resets are caused.

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This conversation has convinced me that we should explicitly mention both the power button and the reset button. I've updated the PR with a new wording.

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Gen4 timers have the power button placed just like the reset button, so it might be good to cover both:
https://www.speedstacks.com/store/_img/_flat/03013_800.jpg

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lgarron commented Oct 3, 2017

LGTM on the latest revision, by the way.

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jfly commented Nov 13, 2017

After talking with @Laura-O, we're going to approach this in a different way. Unfortunately, I'm just a little too busy to push on this, but I plan to pick up the torch again soon.

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lgarron commented Nov 14, 2017

After talking with @Laura-O, we're going to approach this in a different way. Unfortunately, I'm just a little too busy to push on this, but I plan to pick up the torch again soon.

What is that way? :-)

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jfly commented Nov 15, 2017

The new plan is to send out a survey to delegates just to get a sense (it doesn't have to be perfect) of who needs help getting o-rings. Then I'll work with the Gear Team to get those people o-rings. The open question is how to check how competitions are doing with actually using o-rings, which @Laura-O and I need to talk about. I've just been too busy to start that discussion with her. I plan to pick this back up over Thanksgiving.

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