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Progress of Bootstrap feels like there is a foot on the break. #3515

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ghost opened this issue May 17, 2012 · 8 comments
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Progress of Bootstrap feels like there is a foot on the break. #3515

ghost opened this issue May 17, 2012 · 8 comments

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@ghost
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ghost commented May 17, 2012

I don't mean to be rude but shouldn't have more ppl access to this? Only 2 guys working on it. Some little changes every few days, the whole world crying for pulls, 200+ issues.

I mean i love bootstrap, but wouldn't it be better to get some experienced guys from the community into the team to speed up development? I mean there is so much potential in it. But it feels like there is a brake holding it back, slowing it down.

@hinrik
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hinrik commented May 17, 2012

21 days nothing from fat

You're looking at the master branch when you should be looking at the 2.0.4-wip branch, which is considerably more active.

@nicholassmith
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I submitted a pull request to the right branch and it was dealt with really quickly, I think YMMV but they're doing a great job from my experience.

@jonschlinkert
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The great thing about GitHub is that anyone can start their own project. They're busy, they have other work to do and the project is sponsored by Twitter - in my view it is completely understandable why other "nerds in the community" can't help admin the account. I'm just appreciative for the time and hard work @markdotto and @fat have contributed to Bootstrap - not only has the toolkit helped sellside (my company) over the past 7+ months, but I personally have learned to be a better UI developer as a result of using it. Bootstrap is a gift, and everything here forward is upside.

@GuildPortal
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Bravo!

@j-hernandez
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I actually quite enjoy having only 2 people, who are fair with their decisions and generally on the same page with each other, managing Bootstrap. They can swing the axe and make calls without getting all up in each other's beeswax. Decisions get made and code gets shipped and I don't have to write mind-numbing CSS for a solid chunk of the front-end anymore.

I can only imagine what the dang sticky footer request thread would look like if there were more than 2 people in charge. Holy fucking ravioli.

@Anahkiasen
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What I'm kind of feeling though is that recently @fat and @markdotto have been refusing almost every request made to them, pretty much saying that this or this change fall to the user's role. In some cases that was legitimate but in a lot of others, I don't know, it kind of seemed unfair.
Now I do understand if that comes from a will to keep features request to a minimum since Bootstrap's close future is mostly bugfixes. But wouldn't it be better to tag features as, well, features and keep them somewhere for a future version instead of succumbing to clositis ?

@mdo
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mdo commented May 17, 2012

Hey nerds, we're working on this. Bootstrap has always been and will likely continue to be a side project for us. We recognize that folks want faster progress, quicker acceptions on pull requests, and fewer issues, but it's a significant time commitment and our schedules are dictated by our full-time roles at Twitter.

@fat and I also want to keep this project close the chest in terms of who responds to the community about issues and pull requests, so we're hesitant to add a third (or more) person to the mix. We're treating Bootstrap itself as a product, and products need limited ownership and direction.

That said, we do our best to take pull requests from folks wholesale whenever possible. We welcome, appreciate, and celebrate our contributors every chance we get (thank you!). For now, this is how we're best able to leverage the collective knowledge and skills of the community.

I'm happy you all want to see more come out of Bootstrap, but hold tight. We're doing out best to get this stuff out the door. 2.0.4-wip should drop soon and we'll keep iterating on smaller, more focused releases as time allows.

Thanks!

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ghost commented May 18, 2012

I can comment on closed issues? I am not saying "hey twitter inc hire some more peeps to make the gift better" i am just seeing that there are many ppl who want to commit legit great improvements, a lot of issues are here.

If course everyone can fork it but lets pretend 5 guys or more fork it, make a team and develop it better and faster, in the end everyone will only look at the original here. I just think a little more openness to the community and some more guy or two with great knowledge would definitely very great for this project. Of course you are working on other things. Thats why it would be great to have more ppl working (looking over issus, accepting pulls) while the others are away.

God I regret that i used the word nerds.

Anyway don't know why i did this, i expected exactly that.

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