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N'ko Context-based shaping & positioning: Diacritic placement #30

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NeilSureshPatel opened this issue Mar 15, 2023 · 5 comments
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The draft N'ko Layout Requirements document shows diacritic placement varying in vertical position in relation to the base letter. This is incorrect, even though this is how it is implemented in Noto.

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It is our understanding that the diacritics should all be placed at the same height. This was something that we discussed with WODN when developing Kigelia. I have just reconfirmed this with Solo Farabado.

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@NeilSureshPatel NeilSureshPatel changed the title Context-based shaping & positioning: Diacritic placement N'ko Context-based shaping & positioning: Diacritic placement Mar 15, 2023
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I submitted an issue on the Noto repo. notofonts/nko#7

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r12a commented Mar 17, 2023

@NeilSureshPatel could you mention who WODN is? Thanks.

Thanks. Now corrected at https://w3c.github.io/afrlreq/nko/index.html#context

Is there ever a situation where ߳ [U+07F3 NKO COMBINING DOUBLE DOT ABOVE​] (used to represent foreign sounds like /y/, /ǝ/, and /ʕa/) are used in combination with a tone mark? If so, how is the double-diacritic handled?

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@r12a, Ahh yes sorry, WODN is the World Organization for the Development of N'ko.

Let me look into the second point. I haven't actually seen an U+07F3 used with other marks. Theoretically stacking would only occur when a U+07F3 is placed over a vowel. It is likely that they are primarily used in loan words which may not have other tonal notation. I need to investigate further.

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Is there ever a situation where ߳ [U+07F3 NKO COMBINING DOUBLE DOT ABOVE​] (used to represent foreign sounds like /y/, /ǝ/, and /ʕa/) are used in combination with a tone mark? If so, how is the double-diacritic handled?

I inquired about this. When the U+07F3 is used on a vowel for loan sounds then other tone marks are not used. The only time two marks are used on a single letter is when one of them is ߲ [U+07F2 NKO COMBINING NASALIZATION MARK]

@r12a r12a added the l:nqo N'Ko script & language label Apr 12, 2023
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r12a commented Apr 12, 2023

Thanks, @NeilSureshPatel ! That confirms what i expected from looking at various pieces of text.

@r12a r12a added s:nkoo and removed l:nqo N'Ko script & language labels Apr 19, 2023
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