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[wg/webperf] Web Performance rechartering #371

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caribouW3 opened this issue Feb 28, 2023 · 21 comments
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[wg/webperf] Web Performance rechartering #371

caribouW3 opened this issue Feb 28, 2023 · 21 comments
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caribouW3 commented Feb 28, 2023

Charter Review

Charter: Web Performance Working Group

  • Existing WG recharter

Horizontal Reviews: apply the Github label "Horizontal review requested" to request reviews for accessibility (a11y), internationalization (i18n), privacy, and security. Also add a "card" for this issue to the Strategy Funnel.

Communities suggested for outreach:

Known or potential areas of concern:

  • Privacy

Where would charter proponents like to see issues raised? (this strategy funnel issue, a different github repo, email, ...)
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Anything else we should think about as we review?

cc @nicjansma @yoavweiss

@caribouW3 caribouW3 changed the title Web Performance rechartering (early notice) Web Performance rechartering Jul 7, 2023
@caribouW3 caribouW3 added Advance Notice Sent Advance Notice of (re)chartering has been sent to the AC Horizontal review requested labels Jul 7, 2023
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himorin commented Jul 11, 2023

(note, not as i18n review comment)

Draft charter as Markdown seems (for me) to be based on quite old charter template, like HR in coordinate section. I'd propose to align with the newest template.

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The HTML version is now ready at https://www.w3.org/2023/07/webperf.html

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npdoty commented Jul 31, 2023

Is this ready for horizontal review?

The draft charter is not yet ready for horizontal reviews.

Maybe that's changed, but it would be to edit/strike that out if it's changed.

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himorin commented Aug 1, 2023

no comment or request from i18n (for updated HTML version)

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ruoxiran commented Aug 2, 2023

no comment from APA.

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(PING has comments, coming soon)

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plehegar commented Sep 7, 2023

  • (nit) typo in first sentence (dup’ed “is to”)
  • (nit) typo in 2nd par of 3. Deliverables (Candidate Recommendation -> Candidate Recommendations)
  • its surprising the group doesn’t intend to advance anything to Recommendation status (Section 3). See also living standard / candidate review snapshots need to address wide review issues process#781
  • similarly the group doesn’t require implementations, just intents to implement. See also [template] interoperable implementations should always be a success criterion charter-drafts#432
  • Note in Section 7. Communication; “The meetings themselves are not open to public participation, however.” Does public mean “non-working group” members? Or non-W3C members? was surprised to see it mentioned in the charter. Does this mean they mean this to be more common practice in Web Perf vs other groups?
  • Similarly, it also seems odd that the group reserves the right to use member-confidental mailing lists “when a participant requests such a discussion”. Again the concern is that the group intends to make whats (I think is?) an exception into common practice

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About section 7, the intent is to say that although all the work and records are accessible to the public, participation to meetings is not public. Should that be phrased differently? public really means public there.
For the last point, since it never happens, I'll remove the mention of special request.

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Possible amendment to the charter would be to describe "living standard" as either "stay in Candidate Recommentation and upgrade using snapshots" or "Recommendation to be updated with Candidate changes", as the process offers both possibilities.

@plehegar plehegar changed the title Web Performance rechartering [wg/webperf] Web Performance rechartering Sep 18, 2023
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Overall this looks good. Couple of minor points:

In success criteria, the part about mitigations and residual risk was removed from the template (because of complaints) so should be removed here also.

discretion of the Chairs or the Director.

Drop Director

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siusin commented Sep 19, 2023

Possible amendment to the charter would be to describe "living standard" as either "stay in Candidate Recommentation and upgrade using snapshots" or "Recommendation to be updated with Candidate changes", as the process offers both possibilities.

Agree. I think we need a little clarification on this.

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About section 7, the intent is to say that although all the work and records are accessible to the public, participation to meetings is not public. Should that be phrased differently? public really means public there. For the last point, since it never happens, I'll remove the mention of special request.

Looking at this further, the webperf charter follows the charter template. So, section 7 of the webperf charter is fine as-is. If it's unclear, we should really push the change into the charter template.

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[[
All decisions made by the group should be considered resolved unless and until new information becomes available or unless reopened at the discretion of the Chairs or the Team.
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s/the Chairs or the Team/the Chairs./

to follow w3c/charter-drafts@e78c83e

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Also re-align with w3c/charter-drafts@c41b4d6 and w3c/charter-drafts@a13d26f

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[[
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Next meeting: TPAC 2023 (Sevilla) in hybrid mode.
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This needs update.

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I think I fixed the latest comments.
I removed the "living standard" term and used a description instead, and also mentioned Rec with
candidate changes.

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himorin commented Sep 20, 2023

the latest entry in charter history seems the same with one previous. it should be
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-members/2023JulSep/0027.html

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(approved to start the AC review)

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@plehegar plehegar added the charter group charter label Oct 17, 2023
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himorin commented Nov 1, 2023

minor fixes:

  • note right under 11.1 should be removed
  • this charter need to be added to the history table

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