Source code?

[nightmareci]

Just wondering if you'll publicly put up the source code of this. Not demanding it, it's your choice to do so.

Making the source code public could lead to ports to platforms you're unable to support yourself, done by other developers with the necessary hardware/know-how.

[ghost]

You already can find the source code in the releases.

[zaphod77]

have you actually downloaded that? :)

[nightmareci]

You already can find the source code in the releases.

The "Source code" downloads just contain the readme and images, no code. Those aren't uploaded by the repository owner, they're automatically generated by GitHub when you make a release. This repository only contains images and the readme, so the "Source code" download ends up only containing those.

[ghost]

have you actually downloaded that? :)

Actually not, I just assumed that the archive named "source code" would actually contain the source code. :)

[vanfanel]

HUh, so.. no source code available then?

Too bad, was about to try building this on the Raspberry Pi. Seems to use SDL2 and OpenAL, so it will run EVERYWHERE if the sources are released.

[zaphod77]

There's almost certainly a reason the source is not available, but i won't say more on the subject.

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On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 5:12 AM Manuel Alfayate Corchete < ***@***.***> wrote: HUh, so.. no source code available then? Too bad, was about to try building this on the Raspberry Pi. Seems to use SDL2 and OpenAL, so it will run EVERYWHERE if the sources are released. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#11 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAQL7ZMPZZFUSVKUMFPHW43XQ6XFJANCNFSM6AAAAAA2OXSHFQ> . You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: <wipeout-phantom-edition/wipeout-phantom-edition/issues/11/1641809928@ github.com>

[sheepo99]

Kindly release the source, I really want to try compiling this on Linux. The code for the original was publicly leaked and Sony didn't care much for it, so there's very little danger here.

[roostercactus]

source (psx/windows anyway) was released by FoI and is on the archive if you want that.

[zaphod77]

Pretty sure Psygnosis owns the code, not Sony. I expect that it will not get released untir permission is obtained, if ever.

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On Sat, Jul 22, 2023 at 3:04 PM sheepo99 ***@***.***> wrote: Kindly release the source, I really want to try compiling this on Linux. The code for the original was publicly leaked and Sony didn't care much for it, so there's very little danger here. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#11 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAQL7ZJTBG2XRSETMUBFTT3XRQW2RANCNFSM6AAAAAA2OXSHFQ> . You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: <wipeout-phantom-edition/wipeout-phantom-edition/issues/11/1646661595@ github.com>

[ghost]

Psygnosis belonged to Sony since the early 1990s and was even renamed to Sony Computer Entertainment Studio Liverpool at a later point. Even later the studio was closed, though, so there is no more Psygnosis to give permission. The trademark and the code are 100% property of Sony, that's why after Wipeout 2097/XL there was never a Wipeout game on any non Sony system.

[vanfanel]

I have an idea.

If this is based off the source code from 2022, which is broadly available, why not release the sources as a diff patch on that?
In a diff patch, no original sources would be included, so it would be perfectly safe.
Using diff to recreate the complete souces locally and build for whatever we want would be trivial.

[zaphod77]

that should work. interesting. sony still renewed their trademarks, though. so there oculd be future action. While there are no developers anymore, they still exist as a legal entity.

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On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 7:04 AM Manuel Alfayate Corchete < ***@***.***> wrote: I have an idea. If this is based off the source code from 2022, which is broadly available, why not release the sources as a patch on that? Using diff to recreate the complete souces locally and build for whatever we want would be trivial. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#11 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAQL7ZJ6VLILNBCNZUFNMULXRUHJJANCNFSM6AAAAAA2OXSHFQ> . You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: <wipeout-phantom-edition/wipeout-phantom-edition/issues/11/1646822524@ github.com>

[vanfanel]

No future actions are possible against a diff patch. It's perfectly safe.

[ghost]

I'm no expert on the matter and even though I'd like to see a proper Steam Deck release, I'd like to point out that a diff file still contains part of the original code, so you still might get in trouble releasing one.

[eobet]

I wasn't even aware you could release something on Github without releasing the source code...

[roostercactus]

another port...but they have source (actual source!). linux support as well. https://github.com/phoboslab/wipeout-rewrite

[vanfanel]

@roostercactus yep, moved to that one. Works incredibly well on the Pi4 on Wayland and KMS/DRM, even with the CRT shader!

[JonSGoopple]

Would like to compile the source myself to ensure there are no trojan in the code as the .exe in the archive is detected by Windows Defender as ZkarletFlash trojan.

[coreybruce]

Yeah with the whole xz de issue it makes this project look shady when there is only a release page and a compiled binary and no source code. I don't see a issue releasing the source code for such a old dead abandoned game from 1995 for the sake of archival or reasons to keep the game alive on newer platform unofficially.