www.elnacional.cat

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https://www.elnacional.cat/

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Username: @lica98

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System configuration

Information	value
AdGuard product:	AdGuard for Windows v7.7.2
Browser:	Chrome
AdGuard driver:	WFP
Stealth mode:	disabled
DNS filtering:	disabled
Filters:	Ad Blocking: EasyList, Peter Lowe's Blocklist, AdGuard Mobile Ads, AdGuard Base Privacy: Legitimate URL Shortener Social Widgets: AdGuard Social Media Annoyances: Fanboy's Annoyances, Web Annoyances Ultralist, Adblock Warning Removal List, I don't care about cookies, AdGuard Annoyances Security: NoCoin Filter List Language-specific: EasyList Czech and Slovak, ROList, Official Polish filters for AdBlock, uBlock Origin & AdGuard, Fanboy's Spanish/Portuguese, Adblock List for Finland, Polish Anti Adblock Filters, Dandelion Sprout's Nordic Filters, AdGuard French, AdGuard Russian, AdGuard German, AdGuard Spanish/Portuguese
Userscripts:	https://userscripts.adtidy.org/release/adguard-extra/1.0/adguard-extra.user.js, https://userscripts.adtidy.org/release/popup-blocker/2.5/popupblocker.user.js, https://raw.githubusercontent.com/roger21/hfr/master/hfr_wiki_smileys_mod_r21.user.js, https://raw.githubusercontent.com/roger21/hfr/master/hfr_infos_rapide_mod_r21.user.js, https://raw.githubusercontent.com/roger21/hfr/master/hfr_postal_recall.user.js, http://scripts.theboredengineers.com/HFRLive.user.js, https://greasyfork.org/scripts/371170-hfr-check-ban/code/[HFR]%20Check%20ban.user.js, https://greasyfork.org/scripts/373905-hfr-links-preview/code/[HFR]%20Links%20preview.user.js, https://raw.githubusercontent.com/fonfano/HFR-Number-the-posts/main/HFR_Number_the_posts.user.js

[iam-py-test]

@lica98 It seems you have uBlock installed. It is recommended you uninstall it immediately as it is a scam and even possibly malware. Please see uBlock-LLC/uBlock#1838 and uBlock-LLC/uBlock#1840 for more data. It is not uBlock Origin and is no longer maintained, and is sending an unknown amount of data to their servers.

It appears you have more than one adblocker installed. This is not recommended; you should only use one adblocker at a time as different adblockers can conflict, and at best AdGuard and ABP are redundant. (almost all the filters in ABP are in AG)
In my opinion, AdGuard is better at blocking ads/trackers/malware/annoyances then AdBlock Plus, but you can chose which you use.

Disclaimer: I do not - and have never - worked for AdGuard or AdBlock Plus, and am no expert on the topic. I'm just an enthusiast and independent developer. Most - if not all - of what I said above has already been said by the AdGuard, AdBlock Plus, uBlock Origin, or Easylist teams

[lica98]

the thing is that occasionally 1 blocker blocks something important (or doesn't block enough) so you have to have more than one

but I deleted the ublock

[iam-py-test]

the thing is that occasionally 1 blocker blocks something important (or doesn't block enough) so you have to have more than one

99% of what ABP blocks, AdGuard will.
However, AdGuard may unblock some things and use advanced syntax to fix an issue, but ABP will just block the request, AdGuard will fail, and the website will be broken. Any (very small) benefit of running ABP alongside AdGuard is outdone by the conflicts.
There are many real examples of where AdGuard will unblock something in it's lists due to breakage, but that unblocking can not affect ABP

[lica98]

the thing is that occasionally 1 blocker blocks something important (or doesn't block enough) so you have to have more than one

99% of what ABP blocks, AdGuard will. However, AdGuard may unblock some things and use advanced syntax to fix an issue, but ABP will just block the request, AdGuard will fail, and the website will be broken. Any (very small) benefit of running ABP alongside AdGuard is outdone by the conflicts. There are many real examples of where AdGuard will unblock something in it's lists due to breakage, but that unblocking can not affect ABP

well that's why I used ublock 🙄

[iam-py-test]

well that's why I used ublock 🙄

There's no point of using any two browser-based adblockers at one time. That's true for AdGuard, ABP, uBlock Origin (not uBlock), AdBlock, etc

[lica98]

well that's why I used ublock 🙄

There's no point of using any two browser-based adblockers at one time. That's true for AdGuard, ABP, uBlock Origin (not uBlock), AdBlock, etc

there is because they block different things occasionally...

[iam-py-test]

there is because they block different things occasionally...

Yes, sometimes, but that causes issues. I very rairly see something blocked 'only' by ABP and not AG. 99% of ABP's filtering is done by Easylist, which AG also has:

[iam-py-test]

Don't believe me? https://twitter.com/gorhill/status/1033706103782170625 (for uBlock Origin and not AG but same thing)

[lica98]

well it's exactly for the remaining 1% that I have it 🙄

[iam-py-test]

well it's exactly for the remaining 1% that I have it 🙄

It's probably far less than 1%. That was just a guess. The ABP filters list is tiny and 'Acceptable ads' disables some of the benefits
Also, there is far more breakage.
Plus, there were be more Anti-Adblock, so you won't even see any benefits.

[lica98]

well it's exactly for the remaining 1% that I have it 🙄

It's probably far less than 1%. That was just a guess. The ABP filters list is tiny and 'Acceptable ads' disables some of the benefits Also, there is far more breakage. Plus, there were be more Anti-Adblock, so you won't even see any benefits.

well as long it's not 0 I'll be using it

and I've already seen plenty of benefits I don't know why you're trying so hard to pretend the opposite

[iam-py-test]

well as long it's not 0 I'll be using it

Like I said, there is very small benefits and a lot of breakage. If you really want higher blocking, just use something like NoScript or uBlock Origin in advanced mode. And like I said, AdGuard often modifies the scripting on a page instead of blocking it, and other adblockers (or extensions like NoScript) interfere.

and I've already seen plenty of benefits I don't know why you're trying so hard to pretend the opposite

When? If you find an ad unblocked by AdGuard, report it and it will be added. They have pretty good response times

[lica98]

Like I said, there is very small benefits and a lot of breakage

like I said, small benefits is worth it (and I haven't gotten breakage so far just because of 2 blockers used, it's rather adguard by itself breaking the site when it happens)

When? If you find an ad unblocked by AdGuard, report it and it will be added. They have pretty good response times

it's not ads mostly but adguard breaking sites (something not working because of the cookies is the most common error)