Talk on OpenShift #5

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@thesteve0

Hey Folks:
How about a hands on session with OpenShift in May? I can do two types of talks - hands on and get your app going on OpenShift Online (in any of the languages and with any of our datastores) OR if we want to spin up our instances of OpenShift Origin PaaS in a VM?
Let me know if you are interested and we can start to schedule.
spousty@redhat.com is also where you can reach me.
Thanks
Steve CP

@tlberglund

@thesteve0 Thanks! I really want to solicit the opinion of the rest of the board on this, so guys, please feel free to speak up openly. I'm new OpenShift, but here's my initial take:

  • I like the idea
  • It sounds like an extremely cool technology
  • Even though I know it's OSS, we'd need to be careful to avoid this sounding like a vendor pitch. (It's weird that we'd even have to think about that for an OSS product, but since this is a substantially RedHat-backed technology, we should manage perception.)
  • Could you think of some ways to shape the talk to avoid that misunderstanding? In particular, I'm thinking of ways to help ordinary devs who do not run ops for successful SaaS businesses (which might therefore be well-served by a PaaS infrastructure) could make use of a system like this, or at least benefit by knowing it.
@matthewmccullough
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@thesteve0 I like the idea. I will second @tlberglund in my own way of saying something similar. I think the best responses at DOSUG are for talks that help our audience bridge what they need to do but aren't, or are, but are doing less well than they could to a future filled with 🌈 and :unicorns: (why is that not an emoji?).

Our audience could be described as:

  • Medium to large business employed
  • Sharp developers that have experimented a fair bit with technologies (not just using what their management tells them to)
  • Liking OSS because of its "free as in speech, not as in beer" goals
  • Mixed in their use of disuse of cloud services
  • Interested in how existing stacks of JEE and Java apps could be easily brought or step-wise brought into the cloud space.

Thoughts?

@matthewmccullough
Contributor

Hi @thesteve0 ! Haven't heard from you in a while, but wanted to let you know we're still keen to talk about this for May. Any thoughts on the above to bring this to fruition? Thanks in advance!

@matthewmccullough
Contributor

Looking to put the data here once ready to go http://meetup.denveropensource.org/events/112443962/

@matthewmccullough
Contributor

@mojavelinux Do you happen to have email contact info for @thesteve0? Super interested in having him for May, but haven't heard from him in a while.

@thesteve0

Sorry I haven't replied I have been swamped with travel and work. What
dates were you thinking?
Thanks
Steve
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@mojavelinux https://github.com/mojavelinux Do you happen to have email
contact info for @thesteve0 https://github.com/thesteve0? Super
interested in having him for May, but haven't heard from him in a while.


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@matthewmccullough
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Was still hoping for the May date as we kind of held it for you, but if that doesn't work out, we'll try to make a plan B. 😄

@thesteve0

What May date were you thinking?

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Was still hoping for the May date as we kind of held it for you, but if
that doesn't work out, we'll try to make a plan B. 😄


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@matthewmccullough
Contributor

Hi Steven,

Tuesday, May 7th is our venue-planned meeting date. Happy to have you address our group if you can make it.

Cheers,
-Matthew

@thesteve0

I might be able to make that date. What time is the meetup?
Thanks
Steve

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Hi Steven,

Tuesday, May 7th is our venue-planned meeting date. Happy to have you
address our group if you can make it.

Cheers,
-Matthew


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@graphitefriction

Hi Steve!

The Meetup begins at 5:30. We chat, grab pizza, late people like me roll in.

From 6 to 9 (or maybe 8:30?) the speaker rocks the podium (with a 15 min break in between for more pizza).

After the meetup, we sometimes re-convene at a local pub for beer and snacks.

The meetup location is at The Innovation Pavilion, 9200 e mineral ave, centennial, co 80112 (NOT at the Microsoft building, that's the old location.)

To see previous talk topics, audience interests, etc. checkout the DOSUG meetup page: http://meetup.denveropensource.org/

And now I'll stop hijacking this conversation and turn it back over to Matthew 😆

Hope to see you soon, Steve!
-Sarah

@matthewmccullough
Contributor

@graphitefriction So appreciative of you supplying the data during Finland's night. Not a hijack. Such a help. ❤️ your contribs, always, @graphitefriction.

@thesteve0

I am in - buying my tickets now.

What would you like me to talk about.

I will come in on Tues afternoon and then leave Wed afternoon.

Thanks
Steve

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@graphitefriction https://github.com/graphitefriction So appreciative
of you supplying the data during Finland's night. Not a hijack. Such a
help. [image: ❤️] your contribs, always, @graphitefrictionhttps://github.com/graphitefriction
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@thesteve0

Will the meeting also be at Microsoft? Or somewhere else? I would like to
get my hotel close to the venue or the bar ;).
Thanks
Steve

On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:44 PM, steven citron-pousty <
scitronpousty@gmail.com> wrote:

I am in - buying my tickets now.

What would you like me to talk about.

I will come in on Tues afternoon and then leave Wed afternoon.

Thanks
Steve

On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:44 AM, Matthew McCullough <
notifications@github.com> wrote:

@graphitefriction https://github.com/graphitefriction So appreciative
of you supplying the data during Finland's night. Not a hijack. Such a
help. [image: ❤️] your contribs, always, @graphitefrictionhttps://github.com/graphitefriction
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@thesteve0

With that much time available let's do a hands on workshop. We will get
everyone creating an app with a DB on OpenShift and during it we can have a
ton of questions. Sound good? You want me to buy pizza and drinks?
Steve

On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:48 PM, steven citron-pousty <
scitronpousty@gmail.com> wrote:

Will the meeting also be at Microsoft? Or somewhere else? I would like to
get my hotel close to the venue or the bar ;).
Thanks
Steve

On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:44 PM, steven citron-pousty <
scitronpousty@gmail.com> wrote:

I am in - buying my tickets now.

What would you like me to talk about.

I will come in on Tues afternoon and then leave Wed afternoon.

Thanks
Steve

On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:44 AM, Matthew McCullough <
notifications@github.com> wrote:

@graphitefriction https://github.com/graphitefriction So appreciative
of you supplying the data during Finland's night. Not a hijack. Such a
help. [image: ❤️] your contribs, always, @graphitefrictionhttps://github.com/graphitefriction
.


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@matthewmccullough
Contributor

Steven,

Historically, there's a real mix of whether folks bring laptops or not. Is there a way to simulate a workshop by so-to-speak letting the audience verbally drive, thereby creating a workshop-like experience.

I'm on a plane from Germany back to the states, so I'll let my brilliant USA DOSUG compatriots weight in here for shaping the plan.

Let me say how delighted I am that you'll be able to make it.

I'm at 303-883-6997 if you need anything at all. I'm teaching the next few days, but you can always get me by email during business hours and then phone in after-business hours (Mountain Time Zone).

We actually have a wonderful food and drink sponsor, but thank you so much for offering to make the evening doubly nice!

To clarify, shape the length to what you know would keep attention best. We've also had some super successful 40m and 40m two-part talks. I'm sure you know best what the right durations are. Just let us know so we can prep the audience and announce the talks.

Cheers,
-Matthew, Tim, Mike, Mark, Dan and Jordan for DOSUG

@thesteve0

Ok folks, can you please let me know of a link Openshift and I can promote for the event.
What is the location - I still haven't gotten a hotel.

Here is the talk I will basically be giving though I will change a little bit of the wording and topic sentence
http://presentations-techsmacktalk.rhcloud.com/judconbrworkshop/index.html#/

The outline is:

  1. 10 minutes of learning about PaaS and cloud
  2. Then everyone is making a Java (or Python or Node.js) application
  3. Then everyone does a quick code change and deploys- they have all now used a PaaS
  4. Now we add MongoDB
  5. Merge a git repo
  6. Does some shell comands
  7. Walk through some code.

In Brazil and other places I have had some people follow along with others or just watch the Festivities.
Does that work for everyone.
Sorry it has taken me a while to respond - I am battling a cold.

Thanks
Steve

@matthewmccullough
Contributor

@thesteve0 I'm on the road teaching in L.A. so I'll let me colleagues fill in some details tonight or tomorrow if possible, but I can get you that event URL right away:

http://meetup.denveropensource.org/events/112443962/

The address is:

The Innovation Pavilion
9200 E Mineral Ave, Centennial, CO

There's a plethora of solid hotel choices around that area, or just a little farther south (5 minutes) such as the "Marriott Tech Center South".

@matthewmccullough
Contributor

@danhillenbrand could you pop this updated outline and evening recipe into our Meetup site? It would be great to indicate that this can be both a follow-along-with-your-own-laptop opportunity, should you want to learn from it that way.

@thesteve0 Any thoughts about the time-to-content-outline plan for the 40m + 40m segments for us to put on the site? In short, do your past runs suggest what fits into the first 40m and the second 40m that Dan can list?

Sorry to hear about your cold. Mend soon!

@thesteve0

I can break whenever we need to break. Maybe 40 minutes until they all push
their first code change and we can break there.

Also, laptop is encouraged - it's more fun that way. I assume there will be
network - is that an ok assumption?

Thanks
Steve

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wrote:

@danhillenbrand https://github.com/danhillenbrand could you pop this
updated outline and evening recipe into our Meetup site? It would be great
to indicate that this can be both a follow-along-with-your-own-laptop
opportunity, should you want to learn from it that way.

@thesteve0 https://github.com/thesteve0 Any thoughts about the
time-to-content-outline plan for the 40m + 40m segments for us to put on
the site? In short, do your past runs suggest what fits into the first 40m
and the second 40m that Dan can list?

Sorry to hear about your cold. Mend soon!


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@matthewmccullough
Contributor

The network is definitely present. It can flake out from time to time, but as long as we are able to retry things (e.g. "run that command again ladies and gents"), we'll be in good shape.

@thesteve0

Close enough for Open Source work ;)

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wrote:

The network is definitely present. It can flake out from time to time, but
as long as we are able to retry things (e.g. "run that command again ladies
and gents"), we'll be in good shape.


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@danhillenbrand

I've updated the web page for this...check it out and let me know if it needs some tuning:
http://meetup.denveropensource.org/events/112443962/

Sadly, I will miss this session as I'm headed out of town for some off-site work next week.

Best of luck for a great meeting!

--Dan

Dan Hillenbrand
(720) 325-4200

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From: Steven Citron-Pousty notifications@github.com
Subject: Re: [feedback] Talk on OpenShift (#5)
To: "DOSUG/feedback" feedback@noreply.github.com
Cc: "Dan Hillenbrand" danhillenbrand@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, May 2, 2013, 8:14 AM

Close enough for Open Source work ;)

On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Matthew McCullough <notifications@github.com

wrote:

The network is definitely present. It can flake out from time to time, but

as long as we are able to retry things (e.g. "run that command again ladies

and gents"), we'll be in good shape.

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@tlberglund

Dan,

Looks great. Very much looking forward to this one.

Tim

On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 12:37 AM, Dan Hillenbrand
notifications@github.comwrote:

I've updated the web page for this...check it out and let me know if it
needs some tuning:
http://meetup.denveropensource.org/events/112443962/

Sadly, I will miss this session as I'm headed out of town for some
off-site work next week.

Best of luck for a great meeting!

--Dan

Dan Hillenbrand
(720) 325-4200

--- On Thu, 5/2/13, Steven Citron-Pousty notifications@github.com
wrote:

From: Steven Citron-Pousty notifications@github.com
Subject: Re: [feedback] Talk on OpenShift (#5)
To: "DOSUG/feedback" feedback@noreply.github.com
Cc: "Dan Hillenbrand" danhillenbrand@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, May 2, 2013, 8:14 AM

Close enough for Open Source work ;)

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notifications@github.com

wrote:

The network is definitely present. It can flake out from time to time,
but

as long as we are able to retry things (e.g. "run that command again
ladies

and gents"), we'll be in good shape.

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@tlberglund

Great job, @thesteve0! After we got the Internet figured out, this was a super cool demo of a technology I just might put into personal use soon. You did a fantastic job with a user group workshop, which I happen to know is no simple thing. :)

@thesteve0

Thanks Time! It was a great time - good audience, great questions, and it
all worked.
So one other thing - for the geospatial session - I am willing to come back
because that is my passion. Let me know if you want me to give one of the
talks or something. I am also willing to do a half or full day workshop for
DOSUG on the weekend on this stuff.
Thanks
Steve

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:57 AM, Tim Berglund notifications@github.comwrote:

Great job, @thesteve0 https://github.com/thesteve0! After we got the
Internet figured out, this was a super cool demo of a technology I just
might put into personal use soon. You did a fantastic job with a user group
workshop, which I happen to know is no simple thing. :)


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@tlberglund

@thesteve0 We would love to have you back out for a geospatial talk. It might be early next year just to make room for other folks, but you are definitely on the "welcome back at DOSUG" list. 😀

@danhillenbrand

I'll second that, even though I missed your talk on Tuesday.  My bosses' boss did attend and highly recommended that I attend any future talks from you.

Great Job!--Dan

Dan Hillenbrand
(720) 325-4200

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Subject: Re: [feedback] Talk on OpenShift (#5)
To: "DOSUG/feedback" feedback@noreply.github.com
Cc: "Dan Hillenbrand" danhillenbrand@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, May 9, 2013, 6:19 AM

@thesteve0 We would love to have you back out for a geospatial talk. It might be early next year just to make room for other folks, but you are definitely on the "welcome back at DOSUG" list.


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@matthewmccullough
Contributor

@thesteve0 Wanted you to know you left quite an impression. Folks at KForce were talking about the interactivity and quality of your DOSUG visit. So appreciative of your flight, travel, and talk!

@matthewmccullough
Contributor

@thesteve0 @ghessler of the Colorado Springs User Group would love to talk to you about a speech at his group as well. It meets on a different cycle and date than our DOSUG, but I wanted to make the intro here and then let you gents take it to a new discussion via email or such...

@ghessler

Hi @thesteve0,

Can you drop me an e-mail at ghessler@gmail.com and let me know if you could do a presentation for us sometime? I can provide available dates and you can let me know what might work for you.

Thanks,

Gary

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