New pat files #5

larsenv · 2019-07-30T19:01:06Z

I managed to convert the soundfont into individual .pat files by instruments. It was quite a bit of work.

Exported everything to sfz with Polyphone, a soundfont editor
Converted them to .pat with a tool called "sfz2pat" (only in the soundfont-utils package on Fedora, was a pain, it was hard to find anything, I had to get a friend to make a Fedora VM to run the program)
Renamed the .pat files by instrument and percussion. The instruments not present don't have .pat files.
Fucked up a rebase because I forgot how to do them, and my file explorer isn't working properly so it was hard for me to commit without accidentally putting stuff in the "js" folder instead of the "pat" folder. I bookmarked a simple tutorial in case I forget again.

Also, the JavaScript console says that there's "missing patch files", referring to the .pat files. I guess they're in the wrong directory? I don't see where in the JS file it loads the .pat files.

I really hope this works.

Difegue · 2019-07-30T19:12:19Z

The missing patch files refers to the fact you don't have .pats for every existing instrument, but that was already the case with the old set.

I'll check out your branch and check that midi playback works as expected. Thanks!

Difegue · 2019-07-30T19:28:26Z

Well, looks like you're missing a bit too many instruments:

Looking at the branch, it seems you have 59 .pat files, which does match the number of instruments present in the soundfont. Maybe the names are off ?

larsenv · 2019-07-31T00:51:07Z

The ones that are missing are instruments not present in the soundfont. I could fill in the blanks, in cases where a different piano is used.

Difegue · 2019-07-31T07:26:07Z

Thing is, it looks like the current instruments are never loaded by any of the .midi files.

I think there's a mismatch between how the soundfont and diyedit match the game's samples to midi instruments.

How to find out the difference though...I think this can only be done manually.

larsenv · 2019-07-31T15:56:06Z

I took a look for a little while and I'm not sure why it's trying to load those. What I was originally doing today was copying over instrument pat files that sounded similar, but I stopped. Yours is trying to load instrument 127 for one of the songs, which actually is the instrument for "Gunshot". (yeah, I don't think that's an instrument used in the records).

The soundfont generator script in Ruby uses the piano noise as a fallback. What would be the best way to figure this out?

Is the soundfont missing some instruments?
Is DIYEdit not exporting properly?
Is the soundfont supposed to match up with the MIDIs? (I thought you said so)
Is the song not playing at all?
Is it just trying to load the instrument files and not generally trying to load the instruments?
Would extracting the soundfont from the game work any better?
Would it sound bad if we used the piano for a fallback for everything?

These all are questions that could help. I'd really appreciate your help, because this is bugging me and I want to see the soundfont working.

larsenv · 2019-07-31T16:54:31Z

Oh, I forgot to mention - the soundfont works fine with the exported MIDIs when I use it with MuseScore or fluidsynth.

Difegue · 2019-07-31T17:11:56Z

I'm pretty sure the soundfont is complete: DIY's editor only has 32 instruments, not counting the drum sets.

Said instruments are a bit weird and don't map to the general MIDI instrument list very well. (For example, DIY's "baby voice" instrument doesn't exist at all in MIDI.)

Both the soundfont and DIYEdit try mapping the DIY instruments to general MIDI's list, but the mappings obviously aren't the same. (In hindsight, it was a bit naive of me to think they'd match as-is.)

Using the piano as fallback here would probably just use one instrument for everything and ruin every song, so it's not an option.

I can try looking in the DIYEdit source code to see how it maps instruments, but as it's decompiled and without comments I can't guarantee success.
The soundfont helpfully has the original names, so that's one less hurdle. If worst came to push, you'd have to figure out yourself by playing records in both their midi forms and in-game how the instruments are mapped.

#ReverseEngineering

larsenv · 2019-07-31T17:45:24Z

There's actually 48 instruments (6 sets) and 112 rhythm tracks (8 sets).

Since MuseScore and fluidsynth read the song OK, so I'm wondering if the MIDI player in JS is trying to load all the wrong instruments? What happens when all the pats are present? Would only the piano play?

I'm making a record right now with all the instruments.

larsenv · 2019-07-31T18:21:04Z

I tried the record with all the instruments, but the MIDI reduced it to 5 instruments because of the 5 tracks, it seems. They all are using the same piano type, even though the 1st track had 4 pianos in it. Just sent it to your Discord if you want to take a look at it.

Is it even possible to use the soundfont? Please test what happens if you copy over the missing pats over. Or I could try and send the pats to fill in the missing instruments. I've spent enough time on this and I don't want this to fail, it was fun converting all the pats.

Difegue · 2019-07-31T18:43:25Z

Soundboard.zip

For safekeeping.

Difegue · 2019-07-31T18:49:55Z

Got the mappings off DIYEdit quite easily:
instrumentCodes = {"Piano", "Organ", "Harpsichord", "Melodica", "Flute", "Trumpet", "Saxophone", "Wood Flute", "Acoustic Guitar", "Electric Guitar", "Banjo", "Bass", "Violin", "Marimba", "Vibraphone", "Timpani", "Star Drop", "UFO", "Alien", "Robot", "Rocket", "Moon", "Green Dude", "Phone Dial", "Cat", "Dog", "Pig", "Insects", "Frog", "Yoshi", "Birds", "Monkeys", "DoReMi Voice", "Wah Dude", "Opera Man", "Soul Girl", "Baby", "Laughing Men", "KungFu Men", "Humming", "DingDing", "PongPong", "FahFah", "BongBong", "BingBing", "TingTing", "BlingBling", "BoonBoon"};

instrumentConversion = {"0", "19", "6", "21", "73", "56", "66", "75", "24", "29", "105", "32", "40", "12", "11", "47", "111", "78", "36", "87", "53", "38", "80", "13", "82", "127", "122", "108", "55", "123", "53", "54", "30", "53", "85", "121", "57", "126", "91", "80", "80", "80", "80", "80", "80", "80", "80", "80"};

drumCodes = {"Normal Drums", "Electric Drums", "Samba Drums", "Asian Drums", "Kitchen Drums", "Toy Drums", "BeatBox Drums", "8bit Drums"};

drumConversion = {"[ACOUSTIC_BASS_DRUM]", "[ACOUSTIC_SNARE]", "[CLOSED_HI_HAT]", "[OPEN_HI_HAT]", "[CRASH_CYMBAL_1]", "[LOW_FLOOR_TOM]", "[HIGH_FLOOR_TOM]", "[LOW_MID_TOM]", "[SIDE_STICK]", "[HAND_CLAP]", "[TAMBOURINE]", "[SHORT_GUIRO]", "[MUTE_TRIANGLE]", "[OPEN_TRIANGLE]"};

A lot of different instruments are getting mapped to 80 at the end here, but that can be fixed. I'll try remaking those arrays to fit the soundfont and see where that gets us.

You can look at the midi conversion code itself here as I had to get it out of DIYEdit to tweak it a bit; It is unreadable as expected, though.

larsenv · 2019-07-31T19:42:51Z

Nice. I didn't know that you could upload files on GitHub like that.

This is great, I didn't see this in the code. It's still not clear why it was loading those .pat files, though.

Difegue · 2019-07-31T19:45:28Z

It wasn't loading them because it didn't need them; midis spat out by DIYEdit only use the instrument codes depicted above. Some of them do match, like piano or timpani, ~~so they should've played in the browser though~~ but since the others don't load, libtimidity just fails silently.

I tried dissecting the soundfont to map the instruments but it's a complete mess; Some instruments are in the drum section or outright missing. I think a proper soundfont should be remade out of the game before going further.

Difegue · 2019-07-31T19:47:14Z

Also, I recommend using SynthFont and Vienna to look inside the .sf2 file.

larsenv · 2019-08-01T02:21:27Z

I can use VGMTrans to extract the missing instruments (or extract everything), and convert them to .pat. The decompiled source code is really helpful.

We had 59 .pat files, I guess some of them were for the drums and the others were other sounds?

Difegue · 2019-08-01T11:31:54Z

Yup, the drums are in their own space (header 128), while the instruments are in header 0.
The soundfont has some weird stuff like the yoshi instrument being in drums and missing notes, for example.

If you do extract everything into a new font, tell me how you map the instruments in it so I can modify the source code accordingly. The current DIYEdit mapping maps all the 8-bit instruments ("DingDing", "PongPong", "FahFah", "BongBong", "BingBing", "TingTing", "BlingBling", "BoonBoon") to instrument 80.

larsenv · 2019-08-01T18:47:17Z

So I'm working on renaming the array with the correct instruments. Almost all of the filenames will be the same (moving stuff like the Yoshi one). It seems some of the instrument names in the soundfont are not quite right...

larsenv · 2019-08-01T19:51:36Z

OK, it was tedious and took a while to fix the array and rename a few things.

Here's the fixed array:

instrumentConversion = {"0", "18", "6", "22", "73", "56", "65", "75", "24", "29", "106", "33", "40", "13", "11", "47", "72", "78", "17", "42", "77", "59", "126", "124", "60", "61", "62", "123", "66", "125", "68", "122", "53", "54", "52", "49", "67", "121", "119", "48", "80", "80", "80", "80", "80", "80", "80", "80"};

I didn't find the 8-Bit sounds (I need a break), but there's some percussion instruments I moved (I only moved the percussion instruments that were not actually percussion). Want to help me do the 8-Bit and percussion?

Here's the instruments that I didn't find used in any of the instruments:

arachno-19.pat
arachno-38.pat
arachno-39.pat
arachno-61.pat
arachno-79.pat
arachno-80.pat
arachno-81.pat
arachno-82.pat
arachno-120.pat

Difegue · 2019-08-01T22:28:10Z

Re-rendered some midis with the new mappings: Loading them with libtimidity.js on the website still fails - I think it's not liking the .pats for some reason. Bleh.

I tried loading them with the soundfont itself in SynthFont and it's definitely closer!
Not quite perfect(and missing the 4 instruments you moved) but at least they play now.

psychoj-midis.zip
This .zip contains midis for the following PsychoJ covers so you can compare with game output easily:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qe9QVNr6vGA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5IlQT9SEjH0

I whipped out the NDS for the unknown instruments to try and figure it out:

19 - No idea atm
38 - Robot
39 - Robot too? Honestly those two sound so similar I wonder if the font isn't borked here
61 - Dog
79 to 82 - Sounds like horribly mangled versions of the 8-bit instruments.

I noticed your mappings were a bit of a mess past the base instruments, and that the DIYEdit instrument list has a bunch of instruments that aren't in the main game. Unused stuff, perhaps.

I've listed my findings in an Excel document here: https://1drv.ms/x/s!AtJBOSoSCRPJgYsOWzL0VuNly8LJoA?e=f3GNbn .

larsenv · 2019-08-02T15:22:23Z

Hmm, I'm not sure why the .pat files aren't playing. Any errors in the console log?

Could you explain the difference between "old map", "new map" and "suggested map"?

larsenv · 2019-08-02T15:36:59Z

Could you please try these .pat files? Maybe they'll work, I extracted the soundfont with a tool called "unsf". Just replace the .pat files only existing, not the whole folder, not everything's in here.

Difegue · 2019-08-02T17:10:47Z

Old map is the DIYEdit mapping, new map is yours, suggested map is what I found.

Difegue · 2019-08-02T21:21:54Z

I'm getting actual DIY samples to play in-browser now, so that's good.
Most of the errors appearing are still from missing patches, with actual JS exceptions rearing their head at the end if I play too many records with broken patches:

.Missing patch: arachno-47.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 0 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: MT32Drums/mt32drum-0.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 1 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: MT32Drums/mt32drum-3.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 2 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: MT32Drums/mt32drum-7.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 3 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: MT32Drums/mt32drum-11.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 4 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: arachno-110.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 0 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: arachno-94.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 1 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: arachno-71.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 2 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: arachno-62.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 3 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: arachno-52.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 4 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: MT32Drums/mt32drum-4.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 5 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: MT32Drums/mt32drum-6.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 6 libtimidity.js:99:15
uncaught exception: abort() at abort@http://localhost:8080/DoujinSoft-2.1.0/js/libtimidity.js:5295:26
_abort@http://localhost:8080/DoujinSoft-2.1.0/js/libtimidity.js:4465:14
c0@http://localhost:8080/DoujinSoft-2.1.0/js/libtimidity.js:5119:1
bA@http://localhost:8080/DoujinSoft-2.1.0/js/libtimidity.js:5119:1
by@http://localhost:8080/DoujinSoft-2.1.0/js/libtimidity.js:5119:1
bx@http://localhost:8080/DoujinSoft-2.1.0/js/libtimidity.js:5119:1
cY@http://localhost:8080/DoujinSoft-2.1.0/js/libtimidity.js:5119:1
ccallFunc@http://localhost:8080/DoujinSoft-2.1.0/js/libtimidity.js:521:24
ccall@http://localhost:8080/DoujinSoft-2.1.0/js/libtimidity.js:480:10
f@http://localhost:8080/DoujinSoft-2.1.0/js/midi.js:1:5434
b@http://localhost:8080/DoujinSoft-2.1.0/js/midi.js:1:5535
playMidi@http://localhost:8080/DoujinSoft-2.1.0/js/init.js:174:10
onclick@http://localhost:8080/DoujinSoft-2.1.0/records#page-6:1:1

Difegue · 2019-08-02T21:22:41Z

.Missing patch: arachno-127.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 0 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: arachno-114.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 1 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: arachno-109.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 2 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: arachno-98.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 3 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: arachno-85.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 4 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: MT32Drums/mt32drum-0.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 5 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: arachno-116.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 0 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: arachno-109.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 1 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: arachno-105.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 2 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: arachno-94.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 3 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: arachno-87.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 4 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: arachno-71.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 5 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: arachno-62.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 6 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: arachno-54.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 7 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: arachno-47.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 8 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: MT32Drums/mt32drum-2.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 9 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: MT32Drums/mt32drum-3.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 10 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: MT32Drums/mt32drum-6.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 11 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: MT32Drums/mt32drum-7.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 12 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: MT32Drums/mt32drum-8.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 13 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: MT32Drums/mt32drum-11.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 14 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: MT32Drums/mt32drum-12.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 15 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: MT32Drums/mt32drum-14.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 16 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: MT32Drums/mt32drum-45.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 17 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: arachno-121.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 0 libtimidity.js:99:15
.Missing patch: arachno-94.pat libtimidity.js:99:15
Num Missing patches: 1

larsenv · 2019-08-03T01:32:05Z

I'm glad the pats are working now. I committed the replaced pats, as you can see.

Are you sure you recompiled the jar? I don't understand why a few of those pats are missing. Like instrument 127 isn't used anymore in the array, so it shouldn't be loading it.' A few of the original pats remain after I copy them over though. (119, 121, 122, 125 and 126).

I'm not sure what percussion numbers the drums map to, I didn't touch those, but they shouldn't be missing, just not working. I'm on vacation from this Saturday (tomorrow here) until Tuesday and won't have my laptop with me. Do you want to try using that tool to work with the percussion? It's not hard.

Difegue · 2019-08-03T01:48:28Z

I don't recompile the .jar currently, I'm just adding override string arrays in MidiServlet.

Libtimidity's errors are super vague tbh, I'm also on vacation starting monday for 2w (and voluntarily cutting off my github access save for comments), so I might push a commit with the injected array in a separate branch, and that's about it for the time being.

Difegue · 2019-08-03T21:53:10Z

Alright, some updates:

I fucked up my own instrument list when making that Excel file and most of your mappings were correct, so my deepest apologies about that.

I tried to work on percussions a bit but DIYEdit's export array is twice the length of the actual drumsets in the game, so I don't know how it's actually mapping them to midi. It's probably not 1-to-1 like the base instruments.

So instead, I switched the JS timidity implementation in DoujinSoft to a much newer one that actually works properly! It's in the diy-soundfont branch for now, alongside your fixed .pat files.
I've also pushed a build of that branch to the main website, so you can try out the sound for yourself. It's certainly closer than what we had before, but the 8-bit instruments are still all going to 80. 😅

I also updated the excel table with what's currently in the branch. I'll still occasionally tune in for comments 'n such during the next two weeks, but won't be able to do any dev work.

larsenv · 2019-08-20T19:04:54Z

What do we need to do to get this merged into master? The drums shouldn't be hard to do if you give me the numbers associated with the drumConversion array.

I took a look at the 8-Bit stuff briefly using the WarioWare DIY Showcase BRSAR file, I could only find the Yoshi Boon-Boon sound.

Kind of worried about this, what should we do first?

Difegue · 2019-08-20T20:20:47Z

The weird thing about drums is that the arrays don't match at all in size:

DIY	Midi	Number
Normal Drums	ACOUSTIC_BASS_DRUM	35
Electric Drums	ACOUSTIC_SNARE	38
Samba Drums	CLOSED_HI_HAT	42
Asian Drums	OPEN_HI_HAT	46
Kitchen Drums	CRASH_CYMBAL_1	49
Toy Drums	LOW_FLOOR_TOM	41
BeatBox Drums	HIGH_FLOOR_TOM	43
8bit Drums	LOW_MID_TOM	47
	SIDE_STICK	37
	HAND_CLAP	39
	TAMBOURINE	54
	SHORT_GUIRO	73
	MUTE_TRIANGLE	80
	OPEN_TRIANGLE	81

Still worth trying to map 'em up though. I recommend you use the diy-soundfont branch I made as a base.

The 8bit instruments are much more important imo though as they're heavily used in a lot of records. It might be worth looking in the DS game instead of Showcase?

larsenv · 2019-08-20T22:17:17Z

I didn't find all of the 8-Bit instruments because there's hundreds of samples in the game. Would you want to take a look if I told you how to do it?

I'm back in school, I still have some time but I did a good portion of the hard work with the soundfonts, help would be appreciated.

Difegue · 2019-08-21T11:34:19Z

I'm busy with a ton of other stuff as well sadly; It's fine if this is paused for a while tbh, it's not terribly important.

larsenv · 2019-08-21T14:32:58Z

I can try to do it then.

larsenv · 2019-09-12T16:24:15Z

Thanks to andrewk, I got the 8-Bit pat files. They're attached.
andrewk-BIT-pack.zip

The mappings:

Ding-Ding: 83
Pong-Pong: 84
Fah-Fah: 85
Bong-Bong: 86
Bing-Bing: 87
Ting-Ting: 88
Bling-Bling: 89
Boon-Boon: 90

Now to figure out the drum mappings... Are there any clues in the code to why there's so many drum instruments in the array?

Difegue · 2019-09-12T19:40:08Z

Alright! I've pushed the new samples to the diy-soundfont branch, will get a build up in a jiffy.

The code that handles the drum conversion is here, starting around line 192.

It seems to get 4 different drum values for the same block of data and then writes them sequentially? I really don't know much about how this part works.

The mapping array for reference:

Instrument	Midi
Piano	0
Organ	18
Harpsichord	6
Melodica	22
Flute	73
Trumpet	56
Saxophone	65
Wood Flute	75
Acoustic Guitar	24
Electric Guitar	29
Banjo	106
Bass	33
Violin	40
Marimba	13
Vibraphone	11
Timpani	47
Star Drop	72
UFO	78
Alien	17
Robot	38
Rocket	77
Moon	59
Green Dude	126
Phone Dial	124
Cat	60
Dog	61
Pig	62
Insects	123
Frog	66
Yoshi	125
Birds	68
Monkeys	122
DoReMi Voice	53
Wah Dude	54
Opera Man	52
Soul Girl	49
Baby	67
Laughing Men	121
KungFu Men	119
Humming	48
DingDing	83
PongPong	84
FahFah	85
BongBong	86
BingBing	87
TingTing	88
BlingBling	89
BoonBoon	90

larsenv · 2019-09-16T15:38:59Z

We got the percussion right, there's only 1 drumset that fits. The playback isn't perfect, but it's impressive.

Everything's merged into master, so I'm gonna close this.

Difegue · 2019-09-16T17:09:55Z

Thanks a bunch for all the work you've put into this.

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