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Communal SD card reader/writer #425

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goatchurchprime opened this issue Jan 17, 2017 · 18 comments
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Communal SD card reader/writer #425

goatchurchprime opened this issue Jan 17, 2017 · 18 comments
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It is almost (but not quite) possible to do work in the workshop without your own laptop, by using the laser cutter computers.

But we need a general SD card writer and reader to save code for the 3D printers. It could sit in the box of spare memory sticks.
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DoESsean commented Jan 17, 2017 via email

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this one looks slim http://www.argos.co.uk/product/2689278

But I'd favour something more clunky like this one that's going to stick around: http://www.argos.co.uk/product/2874760?rec=webRespPDP:2689278:alt:CWVTPUBOOT:2874760

... especially as if can read old fashioned compact flash cards that is still in use in industrial robots.

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johnmckerrell commented Jan 17, 2017 via email

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I'd have to check the PCs but presumably we can mount a reader in one of the drive bays? If we got a couple of cheap ones and mounted them they'd presumably be less likely to wander off?

e.g.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/iMicro-All-in-1-3-5-3-5-inch-USB-Internal-Card-Reader-for-PC-T-Flash-SM-SD-MMCI-/231316560854?hash=item35db8a9bd6:g:DlkAAOSwDFNWFL6I

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Or look at that... wow!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-25-Front-Panel-Media-Dashboard-Internal-e-SATA-Dual-USB-3-0-2-0-Card-Reader-/182032427374?hash=item2a61fa696e:g:k1EAAOSwxg5Xx5pF

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johnmckerrell commented Jan 18, 2017 via email

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@johnmckerrell yes my guess is it's just using the USB2.0 for the SD cards... :-/

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For the price (£3) what about we get a couple of these to fit and then source a floating USB3 dongle?

http://www.ebuyer.com/210671-dynamode-3-5-int-reader-black-usballint1black

I need to buy a few things from eBuyer so I'll happily add a couple of these to my order if you think it'll help?

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johnmckerrell commented Jan 18, 2017 via email

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On order :)

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There's a 3.5in card reader/writer mounted into Sophia-PC

I've also installed the rather marvellous Disk Imager utility (if I do say so myself) which can be used for reading and writing uncompressed and compressed SD card images

There is a non-working card reader currently mounted into Gerald-PC. Rather irritatingly Mr. Dell doesn't appear to have included any standard form-factor internal USB sockets on the motherboard. Will have to have a think about that.

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Re-opening as @amcewen has pointed out that the non-working card reader is still... non-working.

Ideas appreciated!

@ajlennon ajlennon reopened this May 17, 2017
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SD <--> USB dongles are inexpensive - an easy way to make the SD card show up as an external drive on any computer. Downside is that they are easy to lose.

Another alternative is a WiFi SD Card - you connect to it as a network drive over WiFi. Downside is that some operating systems might struggle to use them.

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@ajlennon did we get any further on this?

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The internal reader can't be connected to the Dell motherboard (as far as I can tell) which is rather annoying. I think we're going to have to go the route @aubergine10 suggests with something of an external USB flavour...

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DoESsean commented Jul 4, 2019

18 months on, has this problem been solved or ignored? If ignored, are we happy with that state continuing?

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@DoESsean This is something I'm interesting in solving and will get to soon.

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Provided 2 x SanDisk ImageMate® PRO Multi-Card Reader/Writer devices

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@goatchurchprime @ajlennon

After some testing of both does-sophia-pc and does-gerald-pc in the Laser Workshop on Thursday 15th August 2019, I have the following update:

Both does-sophia-pc and does-gerald-pc have multi-format card readers installed in them (including slots for: SD Card, Compact Flash, Memory Stick Duo, and MicroSD / TransFlash).

Both card readers, in both PCs appear to be working with the following observations:
When using a SD Card with the readers, the card must be inserted "upside down" (does-sophia-pc already had a label indicating this and I have now printed and added a similar label to does-gerald-pc);
Both readers have a USB 2.0 port; however this port on does-sophia-pc does not seem to be reliable. Following the installation of the appropriate system and USB drivers on does-gerald-pc, the bank of four USB ports on the right side of the front of does-gerald-pc seem to be working reliably.
Therefore it is recommended that if one wishes to connect a USB memory stick / drive to either does-sophia-pc or does-gerald-pc, that the USB 2.0 port on the multi-card readers is not used, and instead one of the USB ports available directly on the PC is used instead,

@aubergine10 @johnmckerrell

I have provided 2 x SanDisk ImageMate® PRO Multi-Card Reader/Writer devices. These are external units, with a USB 3.1 interface and support the following memory card formats:
non-UHS, UHS-I, UHS-II SD, SDHC, SDXC, microSDHC, microSDXC, and upto UDMA 7-enabled CompactFlash.

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These devices are located in a box labelled "Shared Memory Cards & Memory Card Readers" on the desk next to does-gerald-pc in the Laser Workshop. As of Thursday 15th August 2019, there were also some USB memory sticks in the box too.

@DoESsean

There may be a better location for this box of "Shared Memory Cards & Memory Card Readers" to be located, as they need not be constrained for use with just does-sophia-pc and does-gerald-pc; indeed they may be reasonably used (on a transient basis) for the purposes of data transfer with any suitable device DoES owned or not.
If there is a better location, please let me know and I shall move the box accordingly.

@MatthewCroughan
I am not sure what your plans are in relation to this, I had started to address this issue a few weeks back (and hence before seeing your comment) when I was browsing through the DoESLiverpool/somebody-should list shortly after joining DoES to see if there was anything I could do to help.
I hope the above is sufficient to close the issue as it stands; though with an eye to the future,
I had considered something akin to a shared media processing / ingestion box with multiple interfaces for a variety of sources (memory cards, UBS keys, hard drives, optical media . . . etc.) that could screen anything being introduced into the DoES environment for any potential "nasties" (hopefully accidental rather than with mal-intent), before making whatever content had been processed available to any machine on the DoES network (perhaps via the DoES Shared Storage.
In any case, I would welcome the opportunity to get your input on potential future enhancements to this requirement.

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