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Other economic or financial requirements #388

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AJDAKOST opened this issue Jun 13, 2023 · 12 comments
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Other economic or financial requirements #388

AJDAKOST opened this issue Jun 13, 2023 · 12 comments
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Hello,
what CA and EO should enter in Part IV (Selection criteria), Other economic or financial requirements in the field of minimum amount (if the answer is "Yes" for the question "Select the periods applicable for all ratios") or minimum rating (if the answer is "No" for the question "Select the periods applicable for all ratios"), if CA only wants to specify a descriptive requirement in this field and does not require an amount or rating.

Thank you.

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Ajda

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Hello @AJDAKOST ,

Thank you very much for your question.
Could you please provide us with a screen related to your question?

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The ESPD Team.

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AJDAKOST commented Jun 14, 2023 via email

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arillpa commented Jun 14, 2023

Dear Ajda,

we cannot see the CA neither the EO views that you mention above. Could you please chech on your side if the screenshot is properly displayed?
We only see '@.***'

Maybe we could also discuss during the OUC meeting on 29 June this GitHub issue.

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Other economic or financial requirements.docx

Hello,

I hope you can see views now.

Best regards,

Ajda

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Dear ESPD team,

I will not be able to attend the ESPD meeting tomorrow due to another meeting.

Best regards,

Ajda

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mc-ec commented Sep 18, 2023

Dear Ajda,

If I understand your request, you would prefer next to "economic or financial requirement" and "rating requirement" a third option to allow only a description.

We documented the discussion we had with the ESPD group back then here #14 on this criterion. It was not the easiest criterion that we have discussed.

Having a third option would be okay in my view. Nevertheless, It would be good to know how this criterion is used in practice.

Best MC

@arillpa arillpa added 3rd party Pending for 3rd party information or decision TBD Needs analysis and discussion with the requester and the rest of stakeholders labels Sep 19, 2023
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Dear MC,

thank you for the answer. The third option would be fine by us.

Our example: CA requires from EO not to have blocked transaction accounts or to have a certain company's credit rating. EO must fulfil this field and maybe even submit a document to meet this criterion (for non-blocked transaction accounts-the answer “Yes or No”, for the company's credit rating EO must fulfil the field with the words for example SB5).

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Ajda

@arillpa arillpa removed the 3rd party Pending for 3rd party information or decision label Sep 20, 2023
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mc-ec commented Oct 9, 2023

Dear Ajda,

Many thanks for your feedback. I would suggest to discuss this for version 4 (next year) as we should discuss together with the OUC on how to implement it.

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@dragos-eu dragos-eu self-assigned this Jan 24, 2024
dragos-eu added a commit that referenced this issue Feb 8, 2024
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Dear @AJDAKOST ,

Thank you for your time.
As agreed, we will proceed with the following solution:

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  • The top level questions will allow to choose between Economic and financial requirements / Rating or Descriptive requirement
  • Adding a new section to capture the Descriptive requirement with a similar behavior as Rating requirement

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Dear ESPD Team,

thank you very much for proposed solution.

Best regards,

Ajda

@dragos-eu dragos-eu removed the TBD Needs analysis and discussion with the requester and the rest of stakeholders label Feb 15, 2024
pascalinelaur added a commit that referenced this issue Feb 16, 2024
Fix TEDSPD-571 #389, Fix TEDSPD-570 #388

Pre-Qualification System (yes, no, not applicable), see C58.
Other economic or financial requirement ( economic or financial; rating; descriptive), see C36.
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pascalinelaur commented Feb 20, 2024

Hello @AJDAKOST ,

For this issue, we decided to go for a new solution, because the purpose of radio buttons is to group things not to split them.

The new solution was found after investigating a bit further.

There are 2 possible solutions :

  1. We can use radio buttons to group all the options. That is the purpose of radio buttons. Hence, it doesn't make sense to have subgroup of radio buttons for the same thing.

  2. We can use "yes" and "no" answer to question, to split all the options, meaning we have an INDICATOR type. Each Indicator represent a given option. The option/question has to be formulated clearly enough as to not lose the user and give him at the same time insight about the following questions. In general, we should avoid to go further than 3 (sub-)levels.

The first solution that will include all the options in a single set of radio button is the one that we will implement as to keep the initial choice of our criterion file and for more clarity.

Solution 1 is described below in our data structure for criterion C36_SC_finan-requ. This solution will be implemented in a future release.

C36_3options_sc_other_eo_fin_rq

C36_3options_sc_other_eo_fin_rq_next

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Since the solution is provided and there are any further comments, we proceed to close this issue.

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