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Difficulty to see enemy with GPS Satellite under FoW, if enemy's color is close to terrain's #10504

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ShadowA opened this issue Jan 13, 2016 · 11 comments
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ShadowA commented Jan 13, 2016

When some players choose colors close to terrain's (on temperal maps, dark green, dark blue, ... or even manage to get black with some color trick), it is very hard to see their GPS symbols under the FoW.

So it can become much easier to sneak attack, which is almost impossible for players who use colors with contrast to terrain.

Not sure what the solution could be.

@ShadowA ShadowA changed the title Difficulty to see enemy with GPS Satellite under FoW, if enemy's color is dark Difficulty to see enemy with GPS Satellite under FoW, if enemy's color is close to terrain's Jan 13, 2016
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pchote commented Jan 13, 2016

The best option is to create new icon artwork that is larger, uses the brighter end of the remap range, and has a border to match our other overlay icons (repair, powerdown).

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ShadowA commented Jan 13, 2016

@pchote Nice 👍

@ghost ghost changed the title Difficulty to see enemy with GPS Satellite under FoW, if enemy's color is close to terrain's Difficulty to see enemy with GPS Satellite under FoW, if enemy's color is close to terrain's [$10] Jan 21, 2016
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riiga commented Jan 27, 2016

I tried doubling the size of the icons and adding a white outline to them, which makes them looks like this (click for full):

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cjshmyr commented Jan 27, 2016

Definitely an improvement!

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pchote commented Jan 27, 2016

Maybe use the icons from the build palette tabs for the things they match with, and then make new ones in the same style for the ones that are missing? The original vector artwork for these are available at https://github.com/OpenRA/ArtSrc/blob/master/cnc/chrome.svg

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riiga commented Jan 27, 2016

Thanks, I used that for the tank and naval icons now, but for the rest they're pretty much identical to what I already have, or they won't look good at all, e.g. the infantry icon which would either look like crap at too small a size or take up too much space if larger, so I'll stick to a dot for infantry.

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@GraionDilach
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This'll be troublesome. The outer white edge will not work on snow terrain - you should use 2 pixel width outlines with the outer being white, the inner being black.

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riiga commented Jan 27, 2016

I've checked them on a snow map and they look just fine, they're only shown underneath the fog which help add contrast.

Final result, the smaller dots will be the ones used.
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IMO give the buildings' inner the outline as well - looks odd with all the rest (esp since tanks do have it).

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riiga commented Jan 27, 2016

I tried that before, but I think looks better like this. There's a darker colour on the inner outline, so the background doesn't shine through.

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