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¿Why I don't have exposure checks since 2020-09-10 19:24:55? #26
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App was updated yesterday to version 1.0.7. This update seems to fix several problems with iOS 13.7 and iOS 14. Here's part of my exposure checks
Please, check your app version. On the other hand, the Android colleagues maintain an open discussion about the two time windows that exist to download the data of new infections. |
As soon as I have a new exposure check I will write here to verify that the update fixed the issueIt's nice to know that the version 1.0.7 will fix the issue, But I think that the issue should be publicif the automatic updates is not working properly (maybe for the nature of the app) and the exposure checks are not working since the update of iOS 13.7 (a week ago) I think that the issue should be public to allow the users of the app to check if they have the update properly installed. I also suggest a better communication with Apple and Google to prevent that future enhancements of the API will be supported by the app and not reacting late. This app could save lives (I lost my two parents in March) and I think that a week without sharing my exposure checks could compromise my health and the health of all people that I met last week |
I think there is a serious issue because the application doesn't give a hint whether it's working properly or not. I understand the designers want it to be as hassle free as possible, but discarding errors can make the application create a false sense of security, which will achieve exactly the opposite of its intended purpose. Please review that behavior thoroughly. I would add some documented behavior so that, when installing it, the user can know that it's working. Something like a first data download or some test check. |
FINAL UPDATE: At 10:49pm I hadn't any additional exposure checks. So I decided uninstall and install again Radar Covid. After that, I got it a new exposition check. Not empty this time. So it's not enough to force an update of Radar Covid. You need to reinstall it. It's like a new enrollment enables the Api-App communication again. The procedure is very complicated for most of the users. I am afraid that most of the millions of users of Radar Covid has an app that doesn't exchange exposure checks. Only new users with a clean setup of version 1.0.7 or users of previous versions that they didn't update iOS have a working exposure app. I guess that the crazy workflow of updating the app is outside of competence of RadarCovid developers. But RadarCovid team should inform to the millions of users that they should reinstall the app. If not, the app is useless. |
@CarlosJimenez There are two daily checks but the exact time is decided by the system and the hardware conditions. There is no need to reinstall the app. I have seen multiple examples of people using iOS 13.7 / iOS 14 (myself included) and once the app was updated to 1.0.7 it started working properly. In fact, on iOS 13.7 / iOS 14 it did indeed run the check twice a day, but the system would refuse the unsigned diagnosis keys, which was the bug fixed by DP3T SDK 1.2.1. Clarification: There is no need to reinstall the app in the context of the DP3T SDK 1.2.1 issue or the Radar COVID 1.0.6 issue. Of course, there may be other currently unknown bugs, which must be addressed. |
I assume that @pvieito is linked to the development team
The app was installed by millions of users. I don't know how many multiple cases you have seen to think that there is no need to reinstall the app. I hope you don't have the syndrome "If it works in my iPhone and 100 more, it will work in ALL iPhones".
Not enough accurate. You can see in the provided JSON (in case that you doubt of my previous words). Some days (10/Sept) there was more than 2 exposure checks by day. And not every 12 hours. I don't know if your statement is only valid in the latest version 1.0.7
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No, I am not related in any way to the development team but I have been warning about the DP3T SDK issue since the repo was published which was fortunately fixed on 1.0.7. Exposure Notification Express is a totally different system, it does not depend on apps and it is only supported by some US regions. |
Also, this is not true as specified on the documentation, the Currently Radar COVID uses the
The DP3T SDK uses the system Background Tasks framework to schedule checks twice a day, then the system decides exactly when the app is launched. |
About this part of the comment in particular I would like to say that we the community are here trying to help and ensure Radar COVID is working properly for all so I would like for everyone to try to follow the typical CODE OF CONDUCT (this one is from the German Corona-Warn-App project) and respect other people on the community. UPDATE: I've just requested on other issue to add a Code of Conduct to the Radar COVID project. |
I'm so sorry if I have bothered you. I opened the ticket to help, not to bother anyone. Your claim that reinstallation was not necessary was contrary to my experience. I was just trying to tell you to believe me instead of denying. |
Take it easy guys we all want to help! Now, my experience. In short, when 1.0.6 waas released I updated and it didn't work. Some state inherited from the previous non working version rendered it unusable until I deleted the app and I reinstalled 1.0.6. A slightly better detailed account follows: I had it running, I don't remember the version, until it stopped working when I updated iOS to 13.7. Before that update to 13.7 I think I suffered another "hey, it refreshed more than two days ago!" incident, but I don't remember it well, sorry. So, noticing it wasn't working, I deleted the app and I reinstalled it. 1.0.6 hadn't still been released. When activating it, I noticed it took an awfully long time to activate exposure tracing. I granted the permission and it stayed there, frozen, for almost a minute before asking for permission to send notifications. And after that, it always showed the last check on 1/7/2020. No hints of errors were shown. But I repeat, the update didn't work well for me, for whatever reason. Some corrupted internal state prevented it from working, I don't know. I had to delete the non working version and install the updated version again. Again, I think the worst problem is some kind of documented confirmation that it's indeed working. Especially when the application, sorry to be blunt, already has a history of silent failures. |
@borjam Interesting! I just wanted to clarify my previous answer to @CarlosJimenez:
There is no need to reinstall the app in the context of the DP3T SDK 1.2.1 issue or the Radar COVID 1.0.6 issue. Of course, there may be other currently unknown bugs, which must be addressed. Sorry for the misunderstanding. And of course, Radar COVID should address the big issue of the silent failures, so we can quickly be aware of these type of problems without the need to be inspecting the app traffic or the system Exposure Notification check list each day. |
I think that I should close this ticket because the issue reported is fixed with the version 1.0.7. Now I am getting new exposure checks as before i installed iOS 13.7 In that case, I think that 2 new issues should be opened
@borjam @pvieito |
It's fine, this issue is becoming a sort of Christmas tree. Anyhow we don't know whether the issue I saw when updating to 1.0.6 was a fault in 1.0.6 (well, in a way it is!) or it was a worst case triggered by the failure of the previous versions that won't be reproduced. I don't have the means to test it properly, anyway. So, in my opinion it's fine to close it. I hope the developers have read it. |
I installed the App at the end of Aug 2020.
The exposure Api was working fine. I checked in Setttings -> Privacy. and I was a happy user.
The app wasn't updated in App Store from Aug 20 until Sep 16
Exposure Notification Express on iOS 13.7
https://developer.apple.com/documentation/exposurenotification/supporting_exposure_notifications_express
A few days ago, iOS 13.7 update enhanced behaviour of the exposure Api. To support several country apps it moves the setting to a new place and allows to use more than one country specific app. So when you travel the exposure app automatically select the appropriate app based on location. Also brings a export option of the exposure checks.
The issue
When I have seen today the exposure checks I realise that I didn't have notifications since a week ago even when I didn't change anything. I still had bluetooth enabled, I sill have the app installed. I didn't made any change on my side. Something has changed.
It could be on the RadarCovid servers or it could be that the update of Apple to support worldwide covid Apps had broken something. Maybe the apps need to be updated to interact with the exposure notification express api to see if they are in charge of notifications.
My exposure checks JSON
I attach my exposure checks json ExposureChecks-2020-09-17.json.zip
I kindly suggest to other members of GitHub to check (or export) their exposure checks json and verify if there is notification since the iOS 13.7 update. I would like that the issue only affects to me, but it could be possible that affects other users.
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