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A few requests for ephemeris visualization (AstroCalc) #1315

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Atque opened this issue Oct 7, 2020 · 12 comments · Fixed by #1332
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A few requests for ephemeris visualization (AstroCalc) #1315

Atque opened this issue Oct 7, 2020 · 12 comments · Fixed by #1332
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Atque commented Oct 7, 2020

Not urgent!

I wish for a few improvements of the ephemeris visualization in AstroCalc.

  • Being able to change the symbol of the marking. E.g. a cross, a star, a ring, general comet symbol etc.
  • Being able to show markings only when labled. This means that I can choose to show e.g. Hale-Bopp's position from 1997-01-01 to 1997-12-31, with 1 day intervals, but only show the markings at e.g. 10 day intervals. This means the line keeps smooth, but without markings in every breaking point. See this image for a suggestion:
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/Comet_Hale-Bopp_starmap_1997.png
  • Being able to use more customizable labels. For example, I would like to show only day and month, or year and month, or just day and hour.
  • Perhaps some antialiasing of the lines and symbols?
@alex-w alex-w added the enhancement Improve existing functionality label Oct 7, 2020
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axd1967 commented Oct 7, 2020

this would be nice for comets; if I understand well, Stellarium already has a drawing model for those.

so one would see the orientation of a comet along the predicted positions.

(I think that is big enough to be dealt with in a separate issue.)

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gzotti commented Oct 7, 2020

Far from trivial. A general comet icon could be drawn rotated with a tail pointing away from the sun. But the appearance of the tail model cannot be queried.

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axd1967 commented Oct 7, 2020

Far from trivial. A general comet icon could be drawn rotated with a tail pointing away from the sun. But the appearance of the tail model cannot be queried.

So the current representation of comets is also an approximate? Wouldn't that be a good starter?
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gzotti commented Oct 7, 2020

Alright. Looks like the next comet with obviously false MPC data. Please edit its elements and reduce absolute magnitude by ~20 or 23 magnitudes... Or did I miss something big? You also seem to have two entries for it. Delete one.

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Atque commented Oct 7, 2020

@axd1967 The comet symbol turning its tail in the opposite direction of the sun for every position would be really nice and probably help a lot in understanding comet orbital movements and maybe plan photos etc. I have no idea how much harder that would be to implement. I had in mind a simple symbol with constant tail direction.

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axd1967 commented Oct 7, 2020

Alright. Looks like the next comet with obviously false MPC data. Please edit its elements and reduce absolute magnitude by ~20 or 23 magnitudes... Or did I miss something big? You also seem to have two entries for it. Delete one.

yes... I was long time wondering what went wrong, but it's not a big issue. Don't worry, I take it with a lot of salt ;-) in this case it's more to show the current Stellarium behaviour.

(A, B and C are three distinct comets from the MPC sources).

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alex-w commented Oct 9, 2020

@Atque I have question for 3rd item (Being able to use more customizable labels.): Is smart mode unacceptable for you?

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Atque commented Oct 10, 2020

@alex-w Smart mode is not unacceptable, but I think it could be too limiting.

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alex-w commented Oct 11, 2020

Please check version 0.20.3-4b8e7fd1c8: https://github.com/Stellarium/stellarium-data/releases/tag/weekly-snapshot

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alex-w commented Oct 13, 2020

@Atque I have a question for the 1st item: maybe just create markers according to the type of celestial body (a "smart marker")?

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Atque commented Oct 13, 2020

@alex-w Yes, that could be useful. But in that case, I would like to have two options: 1. Use "smart markers", and 2. Use normal markers (the circle marker used today).

What do you think about the comet marker with a tail always pointing away from the sun? How much more complicated would that be to implement, compared to a simple static comet symbol?

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axd1967 commented Oct 13, 2020

What do you think about the comet marker with a tail always pointing away from the sun? How much more complicated would that be to implement, compared to a simple static comet symbol?

I find this interesting because the workaround is to use the angle measurement tool to get an idea of the sun angle.

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the length could be configurable in pixels.

This was linked to pull requests Nov 19, 2020
@alex-w alex-w added the state: in progress The problem is in process of solution... label Aug 2, 2022
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