Updated jTEI ODD with @see attributes #2057
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TEIC#2046 some additional minor fixes to error reports
| <!-- [PL] forename and surname are very much western habits. Ethiopian colleagues do not have this habit, for example. | ||
| why not allow all what is possible in name? I also do not see constraints here in the ODD about this. | ||
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@PietroLiuzzo I'm open to the idea, but the (equally Western-centric) Lodel publication platform does expect surnames and forenames for all contributors (https://tei-openedition.readthedocs.io/en/latest/tei.teiHeader.html#auteurs-editeurs-traducteurs)
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the example there has name without further specification, which would be already good
<author>
<name>Marin Dacos</name>
</author>this would be ok for us, and I did not find a rule in the schema requiring that.
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I noticed, too... and have tested with the Lodel publication platform, which does seem to accept just <name>, and will then index the last token as surname, and all the rest as forename. So I can confirm <forename> and <surname> are not mandatory for the publication system, although they will provide for better control over the indexing of names in the Lodel publication platform (with all apologies for the non-descriptive markup angle of these remarks).
On further investigation, the jTEI schema doesn't require <forename> and <surname> either, so it's just the prose description that is over-specified. I do think it's worth mentioning that if name components can be distinguished, they should preferably be a) placed in the order "forename - surname", and b) tagged explicitly with <forename> and <surname> .
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I'd be in favour of making <forename> and <surname> mandatory. I'm constantly finding holes in transformation code that assumes the surname is a single token when quite frequently it's a double-barrelled name with no hyphen (Ralph Vaughan Williams, Andrew Lloyd Webber, John Maynard Smith, Kristin Scott Thomas, Helena Bonham Carter).
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I like the way of putting it of @rvdb last comment !
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I would not mandate or assume order of surname forename, unless you think Zedong Mao is how Mao Zedong should appear in jTei. There is a Stylesheets issue discussing this already.
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@rvdb (and @PietroLiuzzo and @martindholmes and @duncdrum) —
The main gist of this PR is the addition of @see attriubtes to the <sch:assert> elements, which seems like a good idea to me. But not one reviewer has approved it over the issue of a comment relating to the encoding of names. Can we perhaps yank that comment, make another ticket for it, and approve the rest of this PR?
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The fork will have to be refreshed too, because the jTEI ODD seems to have moved on since the PR was originally created.
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Council is reviewing pull requests now. @PietroLiuzzo do you want us to go ahead and merge this? |
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Would be nice, thanks! For the names I will make another ticket
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@PietroLiuzzo could you please resolve the conflict in tei_jtei.odd so we can merge? |
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@PietroLiuzzo to open a new ticket to discuss the fate of his controversial comment on names. |
#2046 some additional minor fixes to error reports
#2046
some additional minor fixes to error reports