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Change from Sorani to central kurdish #3

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jwtiyar opened this issue Apr 21, 2020 · 10 comments
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Change from Sorani to central kurdish #3

jwtiyar opened this issue Apr 21, 2020 · 10 comments
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jwtiyar commented Apr 21, 2020

Hey
The name of our language is central kurdish not Sorani and its a dialect of kurdish. we have Northern kurdish, southern kurdish and Central kurdish, Sorani and Kurmanji are two different standard script or writing script for them, they are not a language name.
You can see from here https://iso639-3.sil.org/code/ckb

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nijel commented Apr 21, 2020

Wikipedia describes that as if Sorani and Central Kurdish would be synomyms (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_languages#Subdivisions), but still it makes sense to be consistent with ISO here.

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jwtiyar commented Apr 21, 2020

Thank you, now its ok.

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jwtiyar commented Jun 23, 2020

Sorry Nijel
but why still sorani exist in some projects and central kurdish not available?
https://hosted.weblate.org/languages/ckb/

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comradekingu commented Jun 23, 2020

https://iso639-3.sil.org/code/ckb
This is Sorani in Hosted Weblate, but should be "Central Kurdish".
It is a bit of a discussion over at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sorani

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/languages/ckb/#overview has it right.

Are the different installation locales listed for each language selection listed anywhere?

Edit: If this is somehow disputed, "Central Sorani" seems like a middleground, because then at least people searching for "Central Kurdish", which I understand to be most people (?) will find it.

From what I can tell ckb should always be either ckb_IQ or ckb_IR?

nijel added a commit to WeblateOrg/scripts that referenced this issue Jun 24, 2020
Otherwise we miss language name updates.

See WeblateOrg/language-data#3
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nijel commented Jun 24, 2020

Fixed now. The upgrade script didn't update the language data, that's why it was not updated there.

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jwtiyar commented Jun 24, 2020

Thanks for great support, Now kurdish belongs to what? Northern and Central Kurdish are available you can change this Kurdish to southern kurdish, So we Cover all three one. And it will be great, without any confusion for kurdish people.

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nijel commented Jun 24, 2020

"Kurdish" is ku/kur and I believe it is correct naming in this case. The question is whether using this makes sense, but that's not something we can control. And it's used widely, see https://hosted.weblate.org/languages/ku/

For Southern Kurdish there is https://hosted.weblate.org/languages/sdh/, though it's currently not used by any project there.

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jwtiyar commented Jun 24, 2020

I know its used by too much people, as i may mention before (when internet was new kurdish people ) we had just kurdish which is three type sdh, kmr, ckb. these was not recognized by organizations. So it was mandatory to use kurdish even if you are translating in ckb, kmr, or sdh. this made the confusion , if you see the list for example OsmAnd ku is northern kurdish, then see newpipe its ckb.
This is the problem I am talking about.
If you need help i can tell you all projects in weblate which used ku, And you change the name from ku to what script they are translating, At the end you can see that we have distinguished them all. no more ku just ckb, kmr, or sdh.

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nijel commented Jun 24, 2020

This is not something to be addressed in Weblate - talk to these projects to use proper code for the language.

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