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Make use of more built-in protobuf scalar types #62

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jbrzozoski opened this issue Jan 7, 2021 · 4 comments
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Make use of more built-in protobuf scalar types #62

jbrzozoski opened this issue Jan 7, 2021 · 4 comments
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@jbrzozoski
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The Sparkplug B protobuf definition only provides uint32 and uint64 types in the one-of value groups. Signed integers are forced in and out of those fields using casting which is not always obvious to implement depending on the programming language.

Additionally, sending any negative value, even small ones, immediately expands the line-size of those fields to the maximum 4 or 8 bytes.

On the next revision of the protobuf definition, I think the one-of value groups should be expanded to also provide either int32/int64 values or sint32/sint64 values. Using these should reduce the amount of casting required to get signed value in and out of the payloads. Additionally, the "sint" versions will allow small signed integers like "-1" to only take one byte of line-size data, although I am unsure if using those versions is easy in all application languages.

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hmm... currently there is:

            uint32   int_value                      = 10;
            uint64   long_value                     = 11;
            float    float_value                    = 12;
            double   double_value                   = 13;
            bool     boolean_value                  = 14;
            string   string_value                   = 15;
            bytes    bytes_value                    = 16;       // Bytes, File

bool, uint32 and uint64 are encoded exactly the same, so it makes sense to scrap the uint32 and bool. note current Protobuf Decoding means for bools, any varint != 0 is TRUE. See here
we would then only need to add sint64 to be added, to provide the advantages of "-1"

The advantage of using sint64 is : that a 64bit "-1" is 10 bytes as a uint64 and only 1 byte as a sint64.
Disadvantages: positive non-zero numbers are now all one bit longer, which 15% of the time means they are one byte longer.

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It could make sense to drop the smaller sized fields like bool, uint32, and sint32 from the protobuf.

Directly related, I'd like if the Sparkplug specification could call out exactly how oversized values should be handled relative to the datatype field a metric was birthed with.

For example, if your metric is birthed with a datatype of int8, but a value being passed is outside the range [-128,128), what should the recipient do?

  1. ignore the metric
  2. clamp it to the min/max that is allowed in an int8
  3. pointer-cast the least significant 8 bits possibly resulting in an unexpected value
  4. just handle the larger value and ignore the datatype the metric was birthed with

None of those answers are perfect, but I would prefer guidance of which to choose in the spec, to minimize the corner case behavior between different implementations.

There's an ambiguous disconnect right now between what datatype a metric is birthed with and how various applications store and handle values of that metric. I know Ignition will send out-of-range values compared to the Sparkplug birth datatype. MQTT Engine appears to convert everything into the most appropriate Java datatype (int or long) and then use that datatype in Sparkplug when sending messages back to a node.

If it's not obvious, I believe the datatype field a metric is birthed with takes precedence over any datatypes or values used, even if the node later sends the metric with a bigger datatype in a DATA payload. (Which I personally think should be against the spec, but currently is ambiguous.)

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We've decided not to make any changes to the specification for this release. However, the Java implementation had an issue with encoding that is now fixed: eclipse/tahu#202. This issue has now been deferred to a future release.

@wes-johnson wes-johnson added spec feature New feature or request and removed future release labels Apr 3, 2023
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@icraggs-sparkplug icraggs-sparkplug added this to the M2 milestone Jun 27, 2023
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We've decided not to make any changes to the specification for this release. However, the Java implementation had an issue with encoding that is now fixed: eclipse/tahu#202. This issue has now been deferred to a future release.

Will this be in the V4 specification?

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