build: announce end of support for old macOS releases #23011

bradfitz · 2017-12-06T04:40:58Z

Note, Aug 2022: See #23011 (comment) for the macOS deprecation schedule.

Apple continues to put out new macOS releases. We can't run builders for all of them forever.

I propose we announce in the Go 1.10 release notes that Go 1.10 will be the last release to officially support macOS 10.8 (Mountain Lion).

macOS 10.8 was last updated Oct 3, 2013, over 4 years ago.

(macOS 10.9 was last updated Mar 21, 2016, 19 months ago, which is somewhat more recent)

Apple doesn't publish official End-of-Life dates for macOS versions, but I read that their security policy is that they issue security updates for the past 3 releases.

Given that they're on 10.13 now, that means 10.13, 10.12, and 10.11 are supported by them.

Our policy of additionally supporting 10.10 and 10.9 in Go 1.11 would be even more.

/cc @rsc @ianlancetaylor

rsc · 2017-12-06T18:35:23Z

I just came here to suggest the same thing. SGTM.

gopherbot · 2017-12-06T18:40:01Z

Change https://golang.org/cl/82275 mentions this issue: doc/go1.10: preannounce removal of OS X 10.8 support in Go 1.11

For #23011. Change-Id: Ibd934f32e41cb8dddbd3d68a324536cf29a97916 Reviewed-on: https://go-review.googlesource.com/82275 Run-TryBot: Russ Cox <rsc@golang.org> Reviewed-by: Brad Fitzpatrick <bradfitz@golang.org>

rsc · 2017-12-13T15:57:18Z

Looks like we could plausibly drop support in Go 1.11 for both Mountain Lion (as previously agreed) and also Mavericks. By the time Go 1.11 comes out in August 2018, Mavericks will have gone two years since its last security update.

version	released	updated	security update
OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion	Jul 2012	Oct 2013 (10.8.5)	Aug 2015 (2015-006)
OS X 10.9 Mavericks	Oct 2013	Sep 2014 (10.9.5)	Jul 2016 (2016-004)
OS X 10.10 Yosemite	Oct 2014	Aug 2015 (10.10.5)	Jul 2017 (2017-003)
OS X 10.11 El Capitan	Sep 2015	Jul 2016 (10.11.6)	Dec 2017 (2017-005)
macOS 10.12 Sierra	Sep 2016	Jul 2017 (10.12.6)	Dec 2017 (2017-002)
macOS 10.13 High Sierra	Sep 2017	Dec 2017 (10.13.2)	—

gopherbot · 2017-12-13T16:06:57Z

Change https://golang.org/cl/83795 mentions this issue: doc/go1.10: preannounce deprecation of OS X 10.9 Mavericks

By the time Go 1.11 is released, OS X 10.9 Mavericks will have gone two years with no security updates. For #23011. Change-Id: I6482852a14477985769b72c45c92416aae8be100 Reviewed-on: https://go-review.googlesource.com/83795 Run-TryBot: Russ Cox <rsc@golang.org> Reviewed-by: Brad Fitzpatrick <bradfitz@golang.org> TryBot-Result: Gobot Gobot <gobot@golang.org>

rsc · 2017-12-13T17:57:19Z

Filed #23122 for the actual removal work (whatever that is). Looks like we'll be caught up once Go 1.11 is out and then once caught up we should probably plan to deprecate one Mac OS version each year, alternating between preannounce and remove.

Go 1.12 preannounces dropping Yosemite
Go 1.13 drops Yosemite
Go 1.14 preannounces dropping El Capitan
Go 1.15 drops El Capitan
Go 1.16 preannounces dropping Sierra
etc.

rsc · 2017-12-13T18:00:28Z

Let's make this issue the open-forever tracking bug for this sequence. Moving to Go 1.11; once Go 1.12 milestone is created, can move to Go 1.12.

rasky · 2017-12-14T09:16:53Z

One bit of information ignored by the above table is which Mac hardware is dropped by each OS versions. Some macOS versions are "tocks" that drop hardware support, others are "ticks" that don't drop hardware support. I think this should be analyzed when taking decisions.

Also this page reports the usage share between different macOS versions:
http://gs.statcounter.com/macos-version-market-share/desktop/worldwide

Mavericks is about 5% of all Macs, while Mountain Lion is non existing.

rsc · 2017-12-14T18:25:29Z

The statcounter.com page makes no sense to me. I don't believe their numbers at all.

gopherbot · 2018-11-28T01:13:06Z

Change https://golang.org/cl/151360 mentions this issue: doc: preannounce dropping macOS 10.10 support

Updates #23011 Change-Id: I0eccea5d08a8758585f183540787b78fb80aa36a Reviewed-on: https://go-review.googlesource.com/c/151360 Reviewed-by: Brad Fitzpatrick <bradfitz@golang.org>

gopherbot · 2018-11-28T15:18:27Z

Change https://golang.org/cl/151361 mentions this issue: doc: fix formatting for Darwin entry

Updates #23011 Change-Id: I38360501c772ddf7cc4bd1b5d7b0225387ead535 Reviewed-on: https://go-review.googlesource.com/c/151361 Reviewed-by: Tobias Klauser <tobias.klauser@gmail.com>

robaho · 2019-02-05T06:30:16Z

@rsc what is wrong with the statcounter? you just read it down in a line - they all seem to add to 100% (or close enough to it - there are probably lots of versions in use that they drop due to very low usage, and combined maybe less than 5% ?).

gopherbot · 2021-05-10T14:25:56Z

Change https://golang.org/cl/318329 mentions this issue: net, runtime: drop macOS 10.12 skip conditions in tests

Go 1.17 requires macOS 10.13 or later. Thus, drop the special cases for the darwin-amd64-10_12 builder added in CL 202618. Updates #22019 Updates #23011 Updates #32919 Change-Id: Idef11c213dfb25fd002b7cda6d425cf2e26a2e06 Reviewed-on: https://go-review.googlesource.com/c/go/+/318329 Trust: Tobias Klauser <tobias.klauser@gmail.com> Run-TryBot: Tobias Klauser <tobias.klauser@gmail.com> TryBot-Result: Go Bot <gobot@golang.org> Reviewed-by: Brad Fitzpatrick <bradfitz@golang.org> Reviewed-by: Bryan C. Mills <bcmills@google.com>

gopherbot · 2021-08-20T22:57:57Z

Change https://golang.org/cl/344071 mentions this issue: internal/dl: update minimum macOS version to 10.13

Featured downloads on golang.org/dl use the latest Go release, which is now Go 1.17. Per golang.org/doc/go1.17#darwin, Go 1.17 requires macOS 10.13 High Sierra or later. For golang/go#23011. Fixes golang/go#47867. Change-Id: I868d118f073977c74429d70ae9ab7c526d098cf7 Reviewed-on: https://go-review.googlesource.com/c/website/+/344071 Trust: Dmitri Shuralyov <dmitshur@golang.org> Reviewed-by: Paul Jolly <paul@myitcv.org.uk>

dmitshur · 2021-11-05T23:03:49Z

We don't currently plan for Go 1.19 to drop support for macOS 10.13, so there's nothing to say in Go 1.18 release notes. Moving to the next milestone. CC @golang/release.

gopherbot · 2022-07-22T21:36:10Z

Change https://go.dev/cl/419194 mentions this issue: dashboard, cmd/makemac: drop macOS 10.12 builder

Go 1.16 was the last Go release to support macOS 10.12, so that builder has become unused and its capacity can be reallocated to other builders. While here, also update makemac to support parsing host types without a "_0" suffix, so we can start using "host-darwin-amd64-13" instead of "host-darwin-amd64-13_0", similar to the new arm64 host type names. For golang/go#23011. Updates golang/go#49149. Change-Id: I6bc0948e716ee62f4b5519cb069aa0f06a2ec1af Reviewed-on: https://go-review.googlesource.com/c/build/+/419194 TryBot-Result: Gopher Robot <gobot@golang.org> Reviewed-by: Dmitri Shuralyov <dmitshur@google.com> Reviewed-by: Carlos Amedee <carlos@golang.org> Run-TryBot: Dmitri Shuralyov <dmitshur@golang.org> Auto-Submit: Dmitri Shuralyov <dmitshur@golang.org>

Featured downloads on golang.org/dl use the latest Go release, which is now Go 1.15. Per golang.org/doc/go1.15#darwin, Go 1.15 requires macOS 10.12 Sierra or later. For golang/go#23011. Change-Id: I9e1fabe459d74bf59661d84e4b40d39d29ce2638 Reviewed-on: https://go-review.googlesource.com/c/website/+/234522 Reviewed-by: Carlos Amedee <carlos@golang.org>

Featured downloads on golang.org/dl use the latest Go release, which is now Go 1.17. Per golang.org/doc/go1.17#darwin, Go 1.17 requires macOS 10.13 High Sierra or later. For golang/go#23011. Fixes golang/go#47867. Change-Id: I868d118f073977c74429d70ae9ab7c526d098cf7 Reviewed-on: https://go-review.googlesource.com/c/website/+/344071 Trust: Dmitri Shuralyov <dmitshur@golang.org> Reviewed-by: Paul Jolly <paul@myitcv.org.uk>

gopherbot · 2022-12-02T22:07:43Z

Change https://go.dev/cl/454957 mentions this issue: doc/go1.20: preannounce dropping macOS 10.13 and 10.14 support

heschi · 2022-12-02T22:08:40Z

The CL above covers the work for 1.20. Moving to 1.21.

For #23011. Change-Id: I386920928a98403180098f1da5ea7696a239210e Reviewed-on: https://go-review.googlesource.com/c/go/+/454957 Auto-Submit: Heschi Kreinick <heschi@google.com> Reviewed-by: Carlos Amedee <carlos@golang.org> TryBot-Result: Gopher Robot <gobot@golang.org> Run-TryBot: Heschi Kreinick <heschi@google.com>

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Updates #23011 Change-Id: I38360501c772ddf7cc4bd1b5d7b0225387ead535 Reviewed-on: https://go-review.googlesource.com/c/151361 Reviewed-by: Tobias Klauser <tobias.klauser@gmail.com>

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