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build: announce end of support for old macOS releases #23011

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bradfitz opened this issue Dec 6, 2017 · 44 comments
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build: announce end of support for old macOS releases #23011

bradfitz opened this issue Dec 6, 2017 · 44 comments

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@bradfitz bradfitz commented Dec 6, 2017

Apple continues to put out new macOS releases. We can't run builders for all of them forever.

I propose we announce in the Go 1.10 release notes that Go 1.10 will be the last release to officially support macOS 10.8 (Mountain Lion).

macOS 10.8 was last updated Oct 3, 2013, over 4 years ago.

(macOS 10.9 was last updated Mar 21, 2016, 19 months ago, which is somewhat more recent)

Apple doesn't publish official End-of-Life dates for macOS versions, but I read that their security policy is that they issue security updates for the past 3 releases.

Given that they're on 10.13 now, that means 10.13, 10.12, and 10.11 are supported by them.

Our policy of additionally supporting 10.10 and 10.9 in Go 1.11 would be even more.

/cc @rsc @ianlancetaylor

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@rsc rsc commented Dec 6, 2017

I just came here to suggest the same thing. SGTM.

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@gopherbot gopherbot commented Dec 6, 2017

Change https://golang.org/cl/82275 mentions this issue: doc/go1.10: preannounce removal of OS X 10.8 support in Go 1.11

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For #23011.

Change-Id: Ibd934f32e41cb8dddbd3d68a324536cf29a97916
Reviewed-on: https://go-review.googlesource.com/82275
Run-TryBot: Russ Cox <rsc@golang.org>
Reviewed-by: Brad Fitzpatrick <bradfitz@golang.org>
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@rsc rsc commented Dec 13, 2017

Looks like we could plausibly drop support in Go 1.11 for both Mountain Lion (as previously agreed) and also Mavericks. By the time Go 1.11 comes out in August 2018, Mavericks will have gone two years since its last security update.

version released updated security update
OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion Jul 2012 Oct 2013 (10.8.5) Aug 2015 (2015-006)
OS X 10.9 Mavericks Oct 2013 Sep 2014 (10.9.5) Jul 2016 (2016-004)
OS X 10.10 Yosemite Oct 2014 Aug 2015 (10.10.5) Jul 2017 (2017-003)
OS X 10.11 El Capitan Sep 2015 Jul 2016 (10.11.6) Dec 2017 (2017-005)
macOS 10.12 Sierra Sep 2016 Jul 2017 (10.12.6) Dec 2017 (2017-002)
macOS 10.13 High Sierra Sep 2017 Dec 2017 (10.13.2)

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@gopherbot gopherbot commented Dec 13, 2017

Change https://golang.org/cl/83795 mentions this issue: doc/go1.10: preannounce deprecation of OS X 10.9 Mavericks

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By the time Go 1.11 is released, OS X 10.9 Mavericks will have gone
two years with no security updates.

For #23011.

Change-Id: I6482852a14477985769b72c45c92416aae8be100
Reviewed-on: https://go-review.googlesource.com/83795
Run-TryBot: Russ Cox <rsc@golang.org>
Reviewed-by: Brad Fitzpatrick <bradfitz@golang.org>
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@rsc rsc commented Dec 13, 2017

Filed #23122 for the actual removal work (whatever that is). Looks like we'll be caught up once Go 1.11 is out and then once caught up we should probably plan to deprecate one Mac OS version each year, alternating between preannounce and remove.

Go 1.12 preannounces dropping Yosemite
Go 1.13 drops Yosemite
Go 1.14 preannounces dropping El Capitan
Go 1.15 drops El Capitan
Go 1.16 preannounces dropping Sierra
etc.

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@rsc rsc commented Dec 13, 2017

Let's make this issue the open-forever tracking bug for this sequence. Moving to Go 1.11; once Go 1.12 milestone is created, can move to Go 1.12.

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@rasky rasky commented Dec 14, 2017

One bit of information ignored by the above table is which Mac hardware is dropped by each OS versions. Some macOS versions are "tocks" that drop hardware support, others are "ticks" that don't drop hardware support. I think this should be analyzed when taking decisions.

Also this page reports the usage share between different macOS versions:
http://gs.statcounter.com/macos-version-market-share/desktop/worldwide

Mavericks is about 5% of all Macs, while Mountain Lion is non existing.

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@rsc rsc commented Dec 14, 2017

The statcounter.com page makes no sense to me. I don't believe their numbers at all.

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@gopherbot gopherbot commented Nov 28, 2018

Change https://golang.org/cl/151360 mentions this issue: doc: preannounce dropping macOS 10.10 support

@ianlancetaylor ianlancetaylor removed this from the Go1.12 milestone Nov 28, 2018
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Updates #23011

Change-Id: I0eccea5d08a8758585f183540787b78fb80aa36a
Reviewed-on: https://go-review.googlesource.com/c/151360
Reviewed-by: Brad Fitzpatrick <bradfitz@golang.org>
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@gopherbot gopherbot commented Nov 28, 2018

Change https://golang.org/cl/151361 mentions this issue: doc: fix formatting for Darwin entry

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Updates #23011

Change-Id: I38360501c772ddf7cc4bd1b5d7b0225387ead535
Reviewed-on: https://go-review.googlesource.com/c/151361
Reviewed-by: Tobias Klauser <tobias.klauser@gmail.com>
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@robaho robaho commented Feb 5, 2019

@rsc what is wrong with the statcounter? you just read it down in a line - they all seem to add to 100% (or close enough to it - there are probably lots of versions in use that they drop due to very low usage, and combined maybe less than 5% ?).

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@gopherbot gopherbot commented May 19, 2020

Change https://golang.org/cl/234521 mentions this issue: doc: require macOS 10.12 or later

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@gopherbot gopherbot commented May 19, 2020

Change https://golang.org/cl/234522 mentions this issue: internal/dl: update minimum macOS version to 10.12

@ianlancetaylor ianlancetaylor removed this from the Go1.15 milestone May 19, 2020
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For #23011

Change-Id: I3137820af975301e251b0a23a9349c544b42c70b
Reviewed-on: https://go-review.googlesource.com/c/go/+/234521
Reviewed-by: Dmitri Shuralyov <dmitshur@golang.org>
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Featured downloads on golang.org/dl use the latest Go release, which
is now Go 1.15. Per golang.org/doc/go1.15#darwin, Go 1.15 requires
macOS 10.12 Sierra or later.

For golang/go#23011.

Change-Id: I9e1fabe459d74bf59661d84e4b40d39d29ce2638
Reviewed-on: https://go-review.googlesource.com/c/website/+/234522
Reviewed-by: Carlos Amedee <carlos@golang.org>
@dmitshur dmitshur self-assigned this Dec 3, 2020
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@gopherbot gopherbot commented Dec 3, 2020

Change https://golang.org/cl/275299 mentions this issue: doc/go1.16: preannounce dropping macOS 10.12 support

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@dmitshur dmitshur commented Dec 3, 2020

Sent CL 275299 for Go 1.16. Moving to the next milestone.

For future reference, the pattern so far:

  • ...
  • Go 1.11 started to require macOS 10.10 or later.
    • Go 1.12 was the last to run on macOS 10.10.
  • Go 1.13 started to require macOS 10.11 or later.
    • Go 1.14 was the last to run on macOS 10.11.
  • Go 1.15 started to require macOS 10.12 or later.
    • Go 1.16 will be the last to run on macOS 10.12.
  • ...

(Which is consistent with the plan in #23011 (comment).)

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Go 1.16 will be the last to support macOS 10.12 Sierra.
Go 1.17 will require macOS 10.13 High Sierra.

For #23011.

Change-Id: I80052bdde4d9f1c5d71b67b85f65fb0b40856750
Reviewed-on: https://go-review.googlesource.com/c/go/+/275299
Trust: Dmitri Shuralyov <dmitshur@golang.org>
Reviewed-by: Ian Lance Taylor <iant@golang.org>
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@gopherbot gopherbot commented Apr 22, 2021

Change https://golang.org/cl/312692 mentions this issue: dashboard: limit macOS 10.12 builders to at most go1.16

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macOS will not be supported after go1.16. This change limits the macOS
10.12 builders to build previous to go1.17.

Updates golang/go#44303
For golang/go#23011

Change-Id: Ib6b4e7939ffb9032b255574d3f0b4fffaad97803
Reviewed-on: https://go-review.googlesource.com/c/build/+/312692
Trust: Carlos Amedee <carlos@golang.org>
Run-TryBot: Carlos Amedee <carlos@golang.org>
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@toothrot toothrot commented Apr 29, 2021

/cc @dmitshur Can you add a note for changes in 1.17?

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@gopherbot gopherbot commented May 4, 2021

Change https://golang.org/cl/316889 mentions this issue: doc/go1.17: require macOS 10.13 or later

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@dmitshur dmitshur commented May 4, 2021

Mailed CL 316889 for 1.17. Will move this to the next milestone when it's submitted.

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For #44513.
For #23011.

Change-Id: Ic092e38da3601a43d7e2110f500db4a6a6f845f5
Reviewed-on: https://go-review.googlesource.com/c/go/+/316889
Trust: Dmitri Shuralyov <dmitshur@golang.org>
Reviewed-by: Alexander Rakoczy <alex@golang.org>
Reviewed-by: Carlos Amedee <carlos@golang.org>
@dmitshur dmitshur removed this from the Go1.17 milestone May 4, 2021
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@gopherbot gopherbot commented May 10, 2021

Change https://golang.org/cl/318329 mentions this issue: net, runtime: drop macOS 10.12 skip conditions in tests

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Go 1.17 requires macOS 10.13 or later. Thus, drop the special cases for
the darwin-amd64-10_12 builder added in CL 202618.

Updates #22019
Updates #23011
Updates #32919

Change-Id: Idef11c213dfb25fd002b7cda6d425cf2e26a2e06
Reviewed-on: https://go-review.googlesource.com/c/go/+/318329
Trust: Tobias Klauser <tobias.klauser@gmail.com>
Run-TryBot: Tobias Klauser <tobias.klauser@gmail.com>
TryBot-Result: Go Bot <gobot@golang.org>
Reviewed-by: Brad Fitzpatrick <bradfitz@golang.org>
Reviewed-by: Bryan C. Mills <bcmills@google.com>
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@gopherbot gopherbot commented Aug 20, 2021

Change https://golang.org/cl/344071 mentions this issue: internal/dl: update minimum macOS version to 10.13

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Featured downloads on golang.org/dl use the latest Go release, which
is now Go 1.17. Per golang.org/doc/go1.17#darwin, Go 1.17 requires
macOS 10.13 High Sierra or later.

For golang/go#23011.
Fixes golang/go#47867.

Change-Id: I868d118f073977c74429d70ae9ab7c526d098cf7
Reviewed-on: https://go-review.googlesource.com/c/website/+/344071
Trust: Dmitri Shuralyov <dmitshur@golang.org>
Reviewed-by: Paul Jolly <paul@myitcv.org.uk>
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