record the retreat #1692
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What's your home internet like @whit537 ? |
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I'm not sure what advantage interconnect would give us, I also don't understand what the software offers. Why not just a Google Hangouts to YouTube stream? |
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So the idea with Interconnect is that it is Google Hangouts on Air with IRC as the chat module (plus it's open-source!). With the benefit that the existing IRC community can participate in the video. We hope to have a working prototype in the coming weeks. By all means, if Interconnect is not ready then (we hope it will be), or if Google Hangouts on Air is a better tool for your use case, then so be it :-) |
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@clone1018 We just upgraded to Comcast. We get about 30Mbps down and 10 up. Not the best, but better than we had with Verizon. |
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How high a priority is this? If we want this to happen, someone needs to own and drive it. If we really want this to happen, we should consider hiring someone to do this for us. John Rubino is a local guy who happened to join the call we did last week regarding the Open Company Initiative and journalists. I have a call in to him to get a quote. We may be able to pay for this out of the Gittip Ally account. If not then maybe we do a short crowdfunding campaign? |
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Depends on what we want, any one of us can pop open a spare laptop with a camera and steam the event to twitch or youtube. I'd be willing to own that as I have an extra device for streaming and a webcam. Anything more I wouldn't be able to handle. |
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@clone1018 In my experience it's hard to get usable quality out of a basic webcam/laptop when there's a room full of people. You end up not being able to hear across the table, etc. Let's see what John can offer us and go from there? |
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Just got off the horn with John. He's quoting us for 8 hrs Saturday, 5 hrs Sunday, one camera, multiple mikes, raw video + line items for YouTube and UStream. Should hear back soon ... |
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Sounds expensive, we'll see! |
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I did clarify with him on the phone that copyright will belong to us (Gittip, LLC). I'll mention that in email w/ him so we have that in writing before we move forward. |
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I should also find out if he'd be using our Internet connection or his own. |
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$600 to record for later, $900 to also stream (using our Internet connection). I think we should pay for the recording ($600) out of Ally. |
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I also clarified with him that he'll be manning the camera, so he'll pan around the room appropriately as we're speaking. |
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We were discussing this earlier in IRC There's certainly going to be times where we follow a conference talk format, but I'm not convinced that recording us all talking over one another and sketching out ideas is worth paying money to record. And FWIW, I'd personally feel uncomfortable being recorded. I don't want to have to worry about a camera recording my derpy face; I want to work on Gittip! |
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I want to spy on @seanlinsley ;) |
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Gittip is an open company. We share as much as possible. We'll respect personal privacy concerns, of course, but I think we need to record at least a good chunk of the retreat. Gittip's life to date has been lived publicly online, whether on GitHub, in logged IRC, in live-streamed Hangouts, etc., and this retreat is an important new milestone for us. It would be un-Gittip-y if the retreat weren't recorded at all. The concerns I'm hearing here and on IRC are: a) cost, b) awkwardness, and c) privacy. In talking with @rummik, I think we can find ways to respect privacy. That leaves cost and awkwardness. I propose that we record (but not live-stream) Saturday only. That should cut the cost to $300, while capturing the bulk of our big discussions (I was half-planning on this anyway: let's plan to do more talking and deciding on Saturday, and more hacking on Sunday). I think that addresses the cost issue. As far as awkwardness goes, I'm not sure what to say. There's a fuzzy boundary between "awkwardness" and "privacy." Each attendee has to decide for themselves where they come down in this particular case. If only one or two truly do not want to be filmed out of concern for privacy, I think we can accommodate them without too much trouble (by positioning the camera directly next to them and making sure the camera person knows not to film them--we'll still be recording audio, but @rummik sounds okay with that, and I haven't heard from anyone else yet re: privacy). However, if I'm going to be the only one willing to be filmed at all, then a) paying for this doesn't make sense, and b) how the heck did we all end up working on Gittip together? :-) The plan is to spend Saturday sitting around my dining room table sharing and talking about our own personal roadmaps for Gittip (anyone who gets bored with that will be free to go hack in another room, or whatever). This conversation on Saturday around the table is the part I really think we need to film and post online. Do you plan to opt out of being video-recorded during Saturday's conversation? |
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I'm fine with being on camera. Filming seems a little over-the-top, but much of Gittip is a little over-the top! |
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I told John I'd give him a final answer tomorrow morning. I confirmed that we'd be looking at $300 to (only) record Saturday only. |
was: stream the retreat
@balupton has suggested https://github.com/bevry/interconnect.
Who wants to be in charge of this?
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