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Collection topic: battery layout suggestions. (No issue reports here please) #40

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gurbyz opened this issue Mar 31, 2020 · 18 comments
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gurbyz commented Mar 31, 2020

This is a collection of layout suggestions for the battery layout. You can add your own.

Please don't mix issues with layout suggestions! This topic is for layout ideas only.

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gurbyz commented Mar 31, 2020

So, to be 'future-proof', what do you think about this:

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Originally posted by @schwarzenbergf in #23 (comment)

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gurbyz commented Mar 31, 2020

I just wanted to chime in and share how SMA solves this issue on their own version of the power wheel.

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I find the second version to be the most elegant. This fits all cases... Hope this helps!

Originally posted by @MimbaMonkeyHouse in #23 (comment)

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gurbyz commented Mar 31, 2020

Another version from Sunnyplaces. Com

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Originally posted by @MimbaMonkeyHouse in #23 (comment)

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gurbyz commented Mar 31, 2020

Honestly, I think an implementation similar to Tesla's powerwall app would be the 'cleanest' type of UI, with your arrows being the power flow direction.

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Originally posted by @Vatoe in #23 (comment)

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WaaromZoMoeilijk commented Apr 1, 2020

The one schwarzenbergf posted is just great. Would the others need a lot of changes? Id rather keep the current layout with an addition of the battery.

Great work gurbyz, thanks

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I find that having the house at the center makes most sense as this is THE essential/principal component. All other components are ancillary. I'd say the most fitting layout is the one posted by @schwarzenbergf with battery and house icons reversed.
Thanks @gurbyz for seeking users' opinion and for the great component.

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zarch1972 commented Jun 22, 2020

this is how myenergi tackle it with all the elements on the outside.

This is showing when my battery is 100% full, so everything is going back to the grid.

Sadly, the myenergi doesn't show SOC (100%).

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zarch1972 commented Jun 22, 2020

Here's another screengrab, this time when the battery is charging.

You can use your imagination to visualise power coming off the battery with arrows and flows going the other way etc.

As you can see there is also a car charger on there and they can also add another bubble for a hot water diverter. I suppose this is the beauty of having all the elements around the outside.

I really like this myenergi view. I think it's the best implementation I've seen.

PS. thanks for the great work on Power-Wheel-Card. :)

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vk2him commented Jul 10, 2020

Here are some examples using a Flukso (which is a device that counts pulses from a power meter or from a CT clamp) https://www.flukso.net/

As the Flukso has an inbuilt mqqt broker, the readings are instantaneous.

It's supposed to give you a quick single glance indication of your present power situation - if you're buying power the background will be red and if you're producing more than you're using the background will be green. This implies that the house "owns" the solar panel, ie, the house generates power because the solar panels are connected to the house.

It's good for my family as the wife knows to turn on dish-washer/washing machine/dryer etc when it's green and when it's red, turn appliances off etc.

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guybw commented Aug 6, 2020

This is how it shows up on my inverter and the arrows change direction depending on power flow.
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civarson commented Nov 8, 2020

Here's enphase's recent UI update, as another example

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eode commented Nov 18, 2020

The myenergi one has the best concept, in my opinion. You have an abstract pool of power -- your own microgrid. Everything adds to and/or takes from that pool. Perhaps if that were the home icon (as that's the only true consumer, if you include system inefficiencies in that -- well, unless you want to split out vehicles).

I also like your original diagram -- but, perhaps if you just swapped home and battery. Plus, that's got good feels, as the home is the center of it.

I know you didn't want issues posted here, and i don't even know if this counts, but it's related directly, and might affect things. What about off-grid situations? If the original view could just replace grid with battery, I think that would work.

Edit: It does work. Replacing grid icon with battery icon works fine for me (although SOC would be nice to see like in the current grid-connected view. Note that this isn't here as an issue for you to address, just to consider in design.

Another reason I like your design - It permits arrows between any of the four entities. Users could then disable any particular arrow, if it doesn't make sense for a specific user's setup (in reference to #43).

The reason that the MyEnergi one is nice is that it obviates the need for any of this with an abstract energy pool. Any source is either contributing or drawing from that pool.

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M-VdM commented Jan 18, 2021

By Dutch company Maxem.io: sleeeeeek

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This the Fronius interface, looks similar to many others with the inverter as a central node. I think it's maybe the best solution.

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MJP-76 commented Jul 28, 2021

This the Fronius interface, looks similar to many others with the inverter as a central node. I think it's maybe the best solution.

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Very similar to SolaX. Agree, Inverter should be the main point as that is the "heart" of the system

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Also, some other things I appreciate from the view (don't know if it's in topic though) is the running dots that are bigger as the power flow gets bigger - and change direction according to the flow, and the anular graph representing the status of the node based on the max power.

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Here's the iammeter wheel
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