arch linux package now in extra

[feinedsquirrel]

The Arch Linux "Extra" repo now has jellyfin-server and jellyfin-web.
The Jellyfin wiki page has been updated.

[enter-a-random-username]

Needs replacement of old content and not an addition. Maybe bin will be dropped as well - maintainers choose.
Jellyfin is already removed out of AUR

Also Download wizard needs a makeover
https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin.org/blob/master/src/data/downloads.tsx#L190C3-L235

[thornbill]

It seems the extras package is not including Jellyfin's custom ffmpeg build... which is not great 😕

[feinedsquirrel]

I am not the maintainer, nor an Arch Linux trusted user. I noticed that it had moved to the official repos, and thought I'd get the ball rolling.

Something that may be possible is to have the package maintainer add an *.install script informing of the existence of the jellyfin-ffmpegX packages in the AUR. Looking now, it seems strange that jellyfin-ffmpeg is only v4, and not "current", while jellyfin-ffmpeg6 appears to be the latest version. Arch convention seems to be the jellyfin-ffmpeg would always be "latest", and older versions get their version number attached. Discussion with a Trusted User might clarify whether this is a recommended change. @nyanmisaka should probably be involved in that discussion.

Last thought I had was wondering if the jellyfin-ffmpeg alterations get merged upstream. From some reddit comments, and looking myself, jellyfin's version is generally kept close to upstream, and just gets a few patches applied on top. If those patches regularly get merged upstream, then it shouldn't matter that the Arch package links to the system ffmpeg, since it stays with upstream stable reliably (in my experience).

At a minimum, I can remove the old content in this documentation, and replace it with a note that Arch users may consider installing jellyfin-ffmpegX from the AUR.

Finally, I have not looked at the download wizard, but from the wording of @enter-a-random-username 's comment, it sounds like there is more there than simply altering something related to Arch. Should it be a separate pull-request? (and thinking about it more, it may not even be in this repo, not sure.)

[nyanmisaka]

Many changes in jellyfin-ffmpeg are not suitable for upstream, or would take forever, so we decided to maintain a fork to meet our needs. The existence of jellyfin-ffmpeg{5,6} was due to changes in the upstream ffmpeg API that broke compatibility with jellyfin-server. At that time, I never considered that jellyfin-server AUR would be adopted by extra.

Maybe I should get in touch with their maintainer to add jellyfin-ffmpeg into the jellyfin-server PKGBUILD, like what emby-server PKGBUILD does. But I didn't find an email or other contact information.

https://gitlab.archlinux.org/grawlinson

https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/jellyfin-server/-/blob/main/PKGBUILD
https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/emby-server/-/blob/main/PKGBUILD

[nyanmisaka]

https://github.com/grawlinson

Well I found it, thanks to him using the same username on github.
I'll try to get in touch with him and find a good place for jellyfin-ffmpeg.

[feinedsquirrel]

Not that you need my approval, but putting jellyfin-ffmpeg into the *-server pkgbuild seems like a good idea. And thank you for clarifying the differences of that fork. The reddit comments I had found were not super detailed.

I held off for now making a recommendation to install jellyfin-ffmpeg from the aur alongside the Arch "Extra" version until we hear the outcome of the discussion between @nyanmisaka and @grawlinson. If the decision is made to keep them separate, then we can add a phrase in this documentation, and to the Jellyfin page on the Arch Wiki that a *-server installation may be well served by also installing the package from the AUR.

[grawlinson]

I see someone has pinged me! Can we move this to a separate issue (as it's not relevant to this PR) and discuss it there?

[feinedsquirrel]

@nyanmisaka might have input as well on where a separate issue should be opened; he's also messaged you directly, I believe. I wonder if an arch flyspray issue would be best, since it primarily involves how it is packaged in the arch repo.

[nyanmisaka]

I see someone has pinged me! Can we move this to a separate issue (as it's not relevant to this PR) and discuss it there?

Let's move here. jellyfin/jellyfin#10315

[feinedsquirrel]

@enter-a-random-username I've taken a stab at the download wizard.

I looked through the other options in the file as a guide.
I wonder if instead of linking to the package in Arch-Extra, it should link to the Arch Wiki page.
Anyone have thoughts on this?

[feinedsquirrel]

jellyfin-bin has now been removed from the AUR, so I removed it from the doc. I also explicitly stated -server-git and -web-git are also available.

I'm not sure if anything needs to be mentioned about older versions of jellyfin-ffmpeg in the AUR. Let me know if I should add anything. Otherwise, I think this is about ready, as the linked issues have been resolved.