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Decide on results for Paper 2, assign tasks #14

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jradavenport opened this issue Jan 25, 2016 · 23 comments
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Decide on results for Paper 2, assign tasks #14

jradavenport opened this issue Jan 25, 2016 · 23 comments

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@jradavenport
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Things I'm interested in putting in Paper 2:

  • An overview of the project and it's goals/mission. Definitely need help in deciding what these are, how long project should go for, how it should evolve, what does it need, etc... For example, next time we do the survey, we should make small/cheap flyers or cards to have laying everywhere at the meeting.
  • Basic demographics numbers for talks vs speakers vs session chairs vs AAS attendees, as in Davenport (2014) (aka Paper 1), and Pritchard (2014).
  • some comments on AAS vs NAM and other conferences
  • is there "threshold"? If the first Q is F, subsequent Q's are more likely to be F?
  • new grid plots?
  • Any changes over 3 years of bulk demographic info?
  • Group sessions by broad subject, any interesting big statements we can make (w/o being overly incendiary)?
  • any actionable ideas we can draw from this data? Trends we can say point to "better" Q/A sessions?

Big-philosophical-question:

Are we reaching the limit of what we can actually accomplish at AAS with this grass-roots work? The project is at an interesting impasse... do we need a professional (ethnographer/sociologist/etc) to better guide this?

@malpaslan
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I think there definitely is some merit in drawing recommendations from the data for future meetings. For example, given that we know that women are more likely to ask questions if the first question is from a woman, and that chairs often find an opportunity to ask the first question… it would follow that more sessions should be chaired by women.

On Jan 25, 2016, at 12:44, James Davenport notifications@github.com wrote:

Things I'm interested in putting in Paper 2:

An overview of the project and it's goals/mission. Definitely need help in deciding what these are, how long project should go for, how it should evolve, what does it need, etc... For example, next time we do the survey, we should make small/cheap flyers or cards to have laying everywhere at the meeting.
Basic demographics numbers for talks vs speakers vs session chairs vs AAS attendees, as in Davenport (2014) (aka Paper 1), and Pritchard (2014).
some comments on AAS vs NAM and other conferences
is there "threshold"? If the first Q is F, subsequent Q's are more likely to be F?
new grid plots?
Any changes over 3 years of bulk demographic info?
Group sessions by broad subject, any interesting big statements we can make (w/o being overly incendiary)?
any actionable ideas we can draw from this data? Trends we can say point to "better" Q/A sessions?
Big-philosophical-question:

Are we reaching the limit of what we can actually accomplish at AAS with this grass-roots work? The project is at an interesting impasse... do we need a professional (ethnographer/sociologist/etc) to better guide this?


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@jradavenport
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Yeah, these are exactly the kinds of observations I would like to put in to writing!

"We find that sessions chaired by women have more women asking questions."

and then in the conclusions

"We recommend trying to recruit as many women for session chairs as possible to help equilibrate the Q/A"

@malpaslan
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I think we definitely have the data to back that statement up (especially in the partial mosaic plots that show just question vs 1st question). It's unclear to me how we could precisely quantify that, but I'd be happy to spend some time digging into the mosaic plot code in R to see if it is possible.

@jradavenport
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My organizational thought is: People shout out what results they want to see computed (and if they willing to help do them) and we'll make an "Issue" for each.

I also want to include ALL previous contributors on the authors list!
cc: everyone who's worked on the Gender project before, including...

@mehmsy @willettk @karraki @ermaier @hmchristenson @jneilcottle
@astronomeralex @kpoppenhaeger @eringrand
@mfouesneau @aburgasser @lauralwatkins @PaulDeStefano @bmorris3 @brittafiore @aholachek

Please let me know if I'm missing somebody!

@malpaslan
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Cool. Shall I start an 'issue' for the mosaic plots then?

@jradavenport
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Yes! 👍

@bmorris3
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I'm willing to contribute whatever I can help with. I'm hoping some ideas come up below that I can take a swing at 🤘

@mfouesneau
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Happy to help as well. Let me know what/how to proceed.

fyi remember to check for agreements on publishing the paper. May takes time.

@jradavenport
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Good point @mfouesneau, will only include authors who reply with positive consent!

@astronomeralex
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happy to be a part of this, too! what can i do to help?

@eringrand
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Happy to join up again! (Especailly now I'm much more profiecent in Python and R.)

@lauralwatkins
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I'm also very happy to help!

@malpaslan
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So as a total aside, some friends of mine are developing a web-based threaded chat platform that works like a mix of chat, forums, and mailing lists. If people are interested, I can get us a room in there to make informal discussions a little easier. It runs in browser, has image embedding, and messages persist between sessions, and we can have different threads running simultaneously in real time. It's on euphoria.io - take a look and let me know, and I'll ask for a room if there is interest.

@brittafiore
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Very excited to see this project moving forward. I'm happy to help. Let me
know what I can do!

Britta

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Mehmet notifications@github.com wrote:

So as a total aside, some friends of mine are developing a web-based
threaded chat platform that works like a mix of chat, forums, and mailing
lists. If people are interested, I can get us a room in there to make
informal discussions a little easier. It runs in browser, has image
embedding, and messages persist between sessions, and we can have different
threads running simultaneously in real time. It's on euphoria.io - take a
look and let me know, and I'll ask for a room if there is interest.


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Brittany Fiore-Gartland, Ph.D.
Data Science Ethnographer
Moore-Sloan Data Science Postdoctoral Fellow
Washington Research Foundation Innovation Postdoctoral Fellow
Human Centered Design & Engineering | eScience Institute
University of Washington
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@PaulDeStefano
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Thanks for including me! I know I'm a little removed, now, but I'm willing help any way I can. I wrote the names-to-gender code for AAS225; if the format of attendee names data for recent conferences is the same, I think it will work. Do you still need something like that?

@kpoppenhaeger
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Hey, great to see that there's a new project! I'm happy to help. I wasn't
at this year's AAS winter meeting because I just moved to the UK - is the
new dataset similar to the one used in our old paper?

Cheers,

Katja

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Thanks for including me! I know I'm a little removed, now, but I'm willing
help any way I can. I wrote the names-to-gender code for AAS225; if the
format of attendee names data for recent conferences is the same, I think
it will work. Do you still need something like that?


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Dr. Katja Poppenhaeger

Lecturer (Assistant Professor)
Queen's University Belfast
Astrophysics Research Centre
Belfast, BT7 1NN, United Kingdom

Research Associate
Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
60 Garden Street
Cambridge, 02138 MA, USA

@jradavenport
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@kpoppenhaeger Yup, data should be very similar to what we used a couple years ago. Now that you're in the UK, we hope you'll help carry the project on to NAM :)

To all the project alumni: please do share your thoughts, make Issues, etc! Loving the feedback all

@jradavenport
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I've put up a brain dump of avenues that need work. Please, read thru, if you see any you can help attack then make a comment or shoot me a msg.

@aburgasser
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I can try to reach out to some of my sociology/ethnic studies/gender
studies colleagues here, to see if they have some insight on how we might
proceed from a broader theoretical basis. Thanks for resurrecting my
participation!

adam

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I've put up a brain dump of avenues that need work. Please, read thru, if
you see any you can help attack then make a comment or shoot me a msg.


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Adam Burgasser, PhD

Professor of Physics
Center for Astrophysics and Space Sciences
University of California, San Diego

http://cass.ucsd.edu/~ajb

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ermaier commented Jan 31, 2016

I’m definitely still interested in helping with this! Been super caught up in internship applications, but I should be more free soon, so please let me know what I can do to help.

Erin

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Subject: Re: [Gender-in-Astro] Decide on results for Paper 2, assign tasks (#14)

My organizational thought is: People shout out what results they want to see computed (and if they willing to help do them) and we'll make an "Issue" for each.

I also want to include ALL previous contributors on the authors list!
cc: everyone who's worked on the Gender project before, including...

@mehmsy https://github.com/mehmsy @willettk https://github.com/willettk @karraki https://github.com/karraki @ermaier https://github.com/ermaier @hmchristenson https://github.com/hmchristenson @jneilcottle https://github.com/jneilcottle
@astronomeralex https://github.com/astronomeralex @kpoppenhaeger https://github.com/kpoppenhaeger @eringrand https://github.com/eringrand
@mfouesneau https://github.com/mfouesneau @aburgasser https://github.com/aburgasser @lauralwatkins https://github.com/lauralwatkins @PaulDeStefano https://github.com/PaulDeStefano @bmorris3 https://github.com/bmorris3 @brittafiore https://github.com/brittafiore @aholachek https://github.com/aholachek

Please let me know if I'm missing somebody!


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@jradavenport
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Hey folks, just wanted to ping to ask if there had been any progress? I've talked with a few of you, but want to make sure things are moving forward from people who want to help out.

If things stall out (no judgement - we all over subscribed) I'll push forward with a slightly limited scope.

Cheers!

@kpoppenhaeger
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Hi Jim,

I couldn't push this directly to the repo, but here is the raw data and
participant list I got from the UK exoplanet community meeting 2016v
(UKEXOM2016).

Cheers,

Katja

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:45 AM, James Davenport notifications@github.com
wrote:

Hey folks, just wanted to ping to ask if there had been any progress? I've
talked with a few of you, but want to make sure things are moving forward
from people who want to help out.

If things stall out (no judgement - we all over subscribed) I'll push
forward with a slightly limited scope.

Cheers!


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Dr. Katja Poppenhaeger

Lecturer (Assistant Professor)
Queen's University Belfast
Astrophysics Research Centre
Belfast, BT7 1NN, United Kingdom

Research Associate
Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
60 Garden Street
Cambridge, 02138 MA, USA

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@jradavenport
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Hi Katja,

It doesn't look like any data got attached when you replied (I think GitHub strips out any attachments when replying to a comment thread).

Could you email the data to me directly in a new email?

Thanks!
-Jim

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