Title support for docx export? #3

brabalan · 2015-06-14T17:26:13Z

This exporter is very useful! Is it possible to have the title exported when doing docx export?

kawabata · 2015-06-15T09:02:17Z

As far as I've tested, the newest version of Pandoc (version 1.14.0.4)
properly
supports exporting "#+TITLE:" line to ".docx" format.

Could you check if you've installed the newest version?

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This exporter is very useful! Is it possible to have the title exported
when doing docx export?

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brabalan · 2015-06-17T08:13:28Z

I have this version (I had the .2 but I upgraded).

Here is a file for which it does not work:

#+title: This is a title
#+date: 1/2/3

* First section
foo

* Second section
bar

Here is what I get:

kawabata · 2015-06-17T12:02:29Z

Exact same text file produce following document in my env,
both Pandoc 1.13 and 1.14....

Hmm...

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I have this version (I had the .2 but I upgraded).

Here is a file for which it does not work:

#+title: This is a title
#+date: 1/2/3

First section
foo

Second section
bar

Here is what I get:
[image: screen shot 2015-06-17 at 10 12 44]
https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/1021637/8202363/7c737c5a-14d9-11e5-89b4-28ff947a7d52.png

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brabalan · 2015-06-17T12:47:21Z

This is not a doc problem: I have the same issue with exporting to pdf or html5 through pandoc. For the later, looking at the source, I see the title tag with nothing in it.

kawabata · 2015-06-18T02:50:11Z

I recalled that I did
'git clone https://github.com/jgm/pandoc-templates templates'
in ~/.pandoc directory.

Even though I couldn't find the docx template there,
would this help?

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This is not a doc problem: I have the same issue with exporting to pdf or
html5 through pandoc. For the later, looking at the source, I see the title
tag with nothing in it.

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brabalan · 2015-06-18T06:43:23Z

I tried it and it did not change anything. I tried to reproduce the problem directly with pandoc, and here is what I have found: if I only ask for the conversion, I get this.

% pandoc -t markdown testdoc.org
First section
=============

foo

Second section
==============

bar

However, if I add the --self-contained option, I get this:

% pandoc -t markdown --self-contained testdoc.org
---
date: '1/2/3'
title: This is a title
...

First section
=============

foo

Second section
==============

bar

Could it be that the option is missing when calling pandoc from ox-pandoc?

kawabata · 2015-06-21T22:29:26Z

Even though in my environment, specifying "self-contained" or not does not affect the result,
you may want to specify that option by default, as
e.g.
(setq org-pandoc-options '((self-contained . t) (standalone . t) (mathjax . t) (parse-raw . t)))

may help you.

brabalan · 2015-06-22T09:47:22Z

It still does not work … and looking at the docs, I see that --standalone should be sufficient. When I run pandoc manually with the arguments stated in the Messages buffer, I get the correct result.

I tried debugging and the problem happens before: the title and date lines are removed from the generated temporary org file. I see that this happens in org-export-to-file but I don't understand what is going on there. I'm using version release_8.3beta-1229-ge900eb of org.

kawabata · 2015-06-22T23:03:21Z

Would you try if 'M-x org-org-export-to-org' and see if it also removes
:title and :date line?
In that case, that would be the problem of default settings of org exporter.
"The Filter System" appeared in the middle of "ox.el" source code provides
explanations
of various preprocessors. Perhaps you may set any of such filters?

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It still does not work … and looking at the docs, I see that --standalone
should be sufficient. When I run pandoc manually with the arguments stated
in the Messages buffer, I get the correct result.

I tried debugging and the problem happens before: the title and date lines
are removed from the generated temporary org file. I see that this happens
in org-export-to-file but I don't understand what is going on there. I'm
using version release_8.3beta-1229-ge900eb of org.

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brabalan · 2015-06-23T06:03:43Z

The org-org-export-to-org does not remove the Title and Date lines. In fact it adds and Author line at the beginning.

kawabata · 2015-06-26T01:19:49Z

What would happen if you try invoking emacs with "-q" option (meaning skip
loading user customization file?) and then exports file to docx format?

In my environment, invoking emacs with "-q" option and loading dash.el, ht.el, and
ox-pandoc.el exports titles properly.

Regards,

brabalan · 2015-06-26T12:50:56Z

I am seeing the same problem with running in a new emacs with -Q: the org-org-export-to-org works correctly, but the pandoc export does not. The temporary org file that is created does not have the metadata information, and I think this is the core of the problem. I do not understand why it is the case, though.

brabalan · 2015-06-28T16:47:46Z

I've asked for help on the org mailing list, and here is what I found. I can replicate the problem (missing metadata in the temporary org file) using this test exporter:

(org-export-define-derived-backend 'mytest 'org
  :translate-alist '((template . org-pandoc-template))
  :export-block "MYTEST"
  :menu-entry '(?t "test" as/org-export-test))

(defun as/org-export-test (&optional a s v b e)
  (org-export-to-file 'mytest
      (org-export-output-file-name
       (concat (make-temp-name ".tmp") ".org") s)))

According to this message http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/98738 the problem is that the org exporter uses the org-org-template function to deal with the metadata, so you might need to call is from org-pandoc-template.

kawabata · 2015-06-29T09:03:14Z

Now I think I understand a problem.

It seems ox-org.el distributed by MELPA nor the one with Emacs 24.4
does not provide org-org-template, while newest HEAD does.

I wonder what would be the best way to solve this problem while keeping
compatibility with existing standard or popular org-mode distributions.

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I've asked for help on the org mailing list, and here is what I found. I
can replicate the problem (missing metadata in the temporary org file)
using this test exporter:

(org-export-define-derived-backend 'mytest 'org
:translate-alist '((template . org-pandoc-template))
:export-block "MYTEST"
:menu-entry '(?t "test" as/org-export-test))

(defun as/org-export-test (&optional a s v b e)
(org-export-to-file 'mytest
(org-export-output-file-name
(concat (make-temp-name ".tmp") ".org") s)))

According to this message
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/98738 the problem is that
the org exporter uses the org-org-template function to deal with the
metadata, so you might need to call is from org-pandoc-template.

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brabalan · 2015-06-29T09:37:00Z

I'll ask and will let you know.

kawabata · 2015-06-29T15:08:46Z

As you see the official org-mode newest package distribution directory
(http://orgmode.org/elpa/), they've stopped refereshing the package
since December, last year (file size has been the same since then.)

That causes the great difference between offical package distribution and
HEAD version. I hope that they would be syncrhonized, so that people
who prefer package installation can also enjoy the newest version.

(For people who want stability, org-mode equipped in standard Emacs
would suffice.)

Anyway, I've never noticed this thing and I thought I've been using the
newest HEAD version of org-mode, which is not true ;-p

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kawabata · 2015-06-29T15:35:26Z

Perhaps the quickest hack would be something like:

@@ -1168,7 +1168,9 @@ Option table is created in this stage."
(epub-chapter-level . :epub-chapter-level)
(epub-cover-image . :epub-cover-image)
(bibliography . :bibliography))))

contents)
(if (functionp 'org-org-template)
```
 (org-org-template contents info)
```
contents))

(defun org-pandoc-put-options (options)

"Put alist OPTIONS to `org-pandoc-option-table'."

But that would cause compiler warning for an environment
that does not have org-org-template function.

I found that 'org-org-template' is introduced to org-mode HEAD
in December 2013, but is not included (or merged) to official
branch (including the one with Emacs 24.4 and ELPA package)
since then....

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As you see the official org-mode newest package distribution directory
(http://orgmode.org/elpa/), they've stopped refereshing the package
since December, last year (file size has been the same since then.)

That causes the great difference between offical package distribution and
HEAD version. I hope that they would be syncrhonized, so that people
who prefer package installation can also enjoy the newest version.

(For people who want stability, org-mode equipped in standard Emacs
would suffice.)

Anyway, I've never noticed this thing and I thought I've been using the
newest HEAD version of org-mode, which is not true ;-p

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brabalan · 2015-06-30T07:45:11Z

Your hack works great and solves the problem, thanks.

Regarding org and Melpa, there has been a long discussion about this back in March: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2015-03/msg00247.html

kawabata · 2015-07-05T22:19:08Z

I've uploaded the change to use ox-org template if it exists.
I hope it would work properly.

brabalan · 2015-07-06T08:18:01Z

It does, thanks.

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