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Increase default QPS and Burst value to improve slow startup duration. #1066

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@nak3 nak3 commented Jun 21, 2023

馃悰 This patch increases default QPS and Burst value to improve slow startup duration.

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The default `kube-api-qps` and `kube-api-burst` are set to `200`. You can adjust them via env variable if necessary.

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nak3 commented Jun 23, 2023

/assign @skonto

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Do you have a linked issue describing the slow startup?

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There was originally #879 , which was eventually closed as stale.

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Out of curiosity which outbound calls to the K8s API server are being throttled?

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I believe it was services and endpoints gets, done by the IngressTranslator

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I believe it was services and endpoints gets, done by the IngressTranslator

Is there a reason those calls aren't using informers?

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nak3 commented Jun 28, 2023

I was not involved the discussion in #276 but the client correctly list all resources at startup.

https://github.com/knative-sandbox/net-kourier/blob/790358f73d01d37c908df5c7c54a7e275c22219e/pkg/reconciler/ingress/controller.go#L213-L214

I researched the context before as #968 (comment) but it was a little bit complicated and still open #968 (it didn't intend to solve this informer vs client but I think related) for that.

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skonto commented Jun 29, 2023

Finding good default values is an open question to me (depends on the scale we support). If we can't avoid the direct K8s api server calls then I don't see many options here. In general this is a problem faced elsewhere too see for example kedacore/keda#3730 & the fix kedacore/keda#3731.

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nak3 commented Jun 29, 2023

We will actually turn off them in the future knative/pkg#2756 so using bigger value like 200 and letting users adjust them via APF or these env values should be alright for now, I think.

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nak3 commented Jun 30, 2023

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Could you merge this before 1.11 cut if you are alright?

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I guess to confirm my understanding - the listing to fill the informer cache is the slow piece right now? And the increasing the QPS/Burst settings will help?

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nak3 commented Jul 3, 2023

Yes, that's correct. The one "the listing to fill the informer cache is the slow piece right now", I need to test and confirm it by myself but I believe there is no change since #276.

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skonto commented Jul 4, 2023

@dprotaso Afaik getReadyIngresses is the slow part that lists ingresses (with a big number things get stuck). This call accesses the api server directly https://github.com/knative-sandbox/net-kourier/blob/main/pkg/reconciler/ingress/controller.go#L317.

@nak3 could you confirm the last bits so we can merge.

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nak3 commented Jul 4, 2023

getReadyIngresses also calls k8s client but the critical part is startupTranslator which lists services, endpoints and etc as @maschmid answered above #1066 (comment)

Please see the log in #840 or (SRVKS-1078 our internal issue). It prints Priming the config with ... so getReadyIngresses passed without stuck.

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skonto commented Jul 6, 2023

Yeah correct now I remember ;) Ok so should we merge? Are there any objections?

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dprotaso commented Jul 10, 2023

I'm confused why doesn't startupTranslator use an informer? Are we then not fetching the data twice?

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nak3 commented Jul 11, 2023

Hmm... I tested #1075. It works and the start speed is fast on 200 ksvcs.

I'm not sure what issue observed with the informer when #276 was created (the comment line clearly mentions The startup translator uses clients instead of listeners to correctly list all resources at startup. but it works on the current net-kourier.

Should we merge #1075 instead of here?

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Should we merge #1075 instead of here?

Yeah - if it's fast then overall it's fetching less data from the API server

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