Unrecognized language sources #3

xrotwang · 2022-03-11T12:45:41Z

Below are the sources referenced in etc/languages.tsv which cannot be matched to a record in etc/sources.bib.

Some fixes are straightforward, e.g. replacing Niggemeyer 1951-52 with Niggemeyer 1951/52 should do. Most of the n.d. ones might be trickier to match.

471	Niggemeyer 1951-52
19483	Fox n.d.
483	Grace n.d.
490	Grace n.d.
18016	Collins n.d.
231	Blust n.d.
234	Blust n.d.
511	Ross n.d. b., Anastasia Vuluku Kaue from Makiri village, courtesy of Hiroko Sato
19171	Tsuchida, Yamada and Moriguchi 1991
19371	Freeman n.d.a.
531	Grace n.d.
19297	Collins n.d. a
548	Collins n.d. b
19013	Collins n.d. a
246	Reid p.c.
19465	Lobel 2014
250	Jeng 1972
254	White 1985
19349	Fox, J. n.d.
581	Hughes n.d.
933	Polillo Dumagat
615	Dick Teljeur, p.c.
273	Reid p.c.
405	Fox n.d.
19772	Hohulin et al. 2018
18285	Ruch n.d.
288	Ekris 1864-65
675	Hohulin et al 2018
19195	Soriente (2006)
309	Peekel 1929-30
310	Rousseau n.d.
722	Walker 1975
18938	van Dierendonck n.d.
816	Verheijen 1967-70
247	Reid p.c.
19764	Jackson 1983
386	Cauquelin 1991
19436	Nivens
395	Fox 1993
19397	Madulid 2000
19716	Madulid 2000
19051	Grace n.d.
19051	Walker n.d.
19314	Rajki 2018
1031	Ross n.d.
19468	Lobel 2014
433	Reid p.c.
1093	Ross n.d.
1094	Collins n.d.a.
19440	Melody Ross (p.c.)
1109	Fox n.d.
1114	Collins n.d.a.
1131	Tsuchida 1987

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SimonGreenhill · 2022-03-13T20:46:23Z

I think the "n.d."'s mean wordlists he's collected off the named person (=personal communication). Lots of these will be in ABVD if that's the case. The others I can track down are:

Tsuchida, S., Y. Yamada and T. Moriguchi, eds. 1991. Linguistic materials of the Formosan
sinicized populations I: Siraya and Basai. Tokyo: Department of Linguistics, The
University of Tokyo

Madulid, D.A. 2001. A dictionary of Philippine plant names. 2 vols. Makati City,
Philippines: The Bookmark, Inc.

Fox, J.J. 1993. Dictionary of Rotinese formal dyadic language. Unpublished revision of 1972
manuscript, with English to Rotinese glosses. Canberra: Department of Anthropology, Research School of Pacific and Asian Studies, Australian National University.

Jackson, F.H. 1983. The internal and external relationships of the Trukic languages of
Micronesia. Ph.D. dissertation, University of Hawaii. Ann Arbor: University
Microfilms International.

Verheijen, J.A.J. 1967-1970. Kamus Manggarai. 2 vols. 1. Manggarai-Indonesia, 2.
Indonesia-Manggarai. KITLV. The Hague: Nijhoff.

https://wals.info/refdb/record/Cauquelin-1991

Soriente, Antonia, ed. 2006. Mencalèny & Usung Marang: a collection of Kenyah stories in the Òma Lóngh and Lebu’ Kulit languages. Jakarta: Atma Jaya University Press.

NIGGEMEYER, H. 1951-52 Alune-Sprache : Texte , worterverzeichnis und Grammatik einer Sprache West-Cerams. Zeitschrift fur Ethnologie 76:50-69, 288-300; 77:116- 132; 238-250.

xrotwang · 2022-03-14T07:52:03Z

ok, so we are almost down to exclusively "n.d." or "p.c." sources. Maybe we should move these into "source comment" fields or similar.

19483	Fox n.d.
483	Grace n.d.
490	Grace n.d.
18016	Collins n.d.
231	Blust n.d.
234	Blust n.d.
511	Ross n.d. b., Anastasia Vuluku Kaue from Makiri village, courtesy of Hiroko Sato
19371	Freeman n.d.a.
531	Grace n.d.
19297	Collins n.d. a
548	Collins n.d. b
19013	Collins n.d. a
246	Reid p.c.
19465	Lobel 2014
250	Jeng 1972
254	White 1985
19349	Fox, J. n.d.
581	Hughes n.d.
933	Polillo Dumagat
615	Dick Teljeur, p.c.
273	Reid p.c.
405	Fox n.d.
18285	Ruch n.d.
310	Rousseau n.d.
722	Walker 1975
18938	van Dierendonck n.d.
247	Reid p.c.
19436	Nivens
19051	Grace n.d.
19051	Walker n.d.
19314	Rajki 2018
1031	Ross n.d.
19468	Lobel 2014
433	Reid p.c.
1093	Ross n.d.
1094	Collins n.d.a.
19440	Melody Ross (p.c.)
1109	Fox n.d.
1114	Collins n.d.a.
1131	Tsuchida 1987

SimonGreenhill · 2022-03-15T00:58:17Z

can you add language information to that list above?

The-Austronesianist · 2022-03-15T01:06:05Z

I'll be able to spend some dedicated time filling these in on Thursday. For most cases it should not be a problem. I don't forsee any serious difficulties.

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SimonGreenhill · 2022-03-15T01:08:32Z

Blust references this thing in some of his papers, which is "Fox n.d.":

Fox, James J. n.d. Unpublished Swadesh 200-word lists for 29 languages of the Lesser Sunda chain.

These ones are all personal communications (i.e. people have given him wordlists directly):

246 Reid p.c. = Lawrence A. Reid
247 Reid p.c.
273 Reid p.c.
433 Reid p.c.
615 Dick Teljeur, p.c. (same as ABVD as Gimán)
19440 Melody Ross (p.c.)
1093 Ross n.d. (same as ABVD, Ubir, wordlist collected by Malcolm)

I cite these like this in ABVD:

@misc{Teljeur-10-2005,
  author = "Dick Teljeur",
  date = "2005", 
  howpublished = "personal communication"
}

SimonGreenhill · 2022-03-15T01:31:40Z

1131 Tsuchida 1987

Tsuchida, S., Yamada, Y., & Moriguchi, T. (1987). Lists of Selected Words of Batanic Languages. Department of Linguistics, Faculty of Letters, University of Tokyo

581 Hughes n.d. -- most likely the following (Blust 2014 cites this):

@incollection{157386,
  address    = {Berlin/New York},
  booktitle  = {Comparative Austronesian Dictionary 1},
  pages      = {637-650},
  publisher  = {Mouton de Gryter},
  title      = {Dobel},
  year       = {1995},
  bibtexkey  = {hughes_dobel1995},
  inlg       = {English [eng]},
  macro_area = {Papua},
  src        = {wals},
  srctrickle = {wals#2805},
  author     = {Hughes, J.},
  editor     = {Tryon, D.T.}
}

933 Polillo Dumagat -- language name. Misentered?
310 Rousseau n.d.
*- also in ABVD from Bob. His source is "J. Rousseau", so I'd make this another p.c.
1094 Collins n.d.a.
1114 Collins n.d.a.
*- both are also in ABVD from Bob. His source is Jim Collins, so I'd make this another p.c.
19436 Nivens
*- cited in Blust 2014 as
- Nivens, Richard. n.d. Toward reconstructing an immediate ancestor of the languages ofAru. Unpublished ms., 40pp.
18285 Ruch n.d.
*- this will be a chapter in the Philippine Minor Languages book (Reid 1971) but I can't see this online anywhere
722 Walker 1975 - probably https://glottolog.org/resource/reference/id/315932
19051 Grace n.d.
19051 Walker n.d.
*- these two are Blusts sources for Sekar. They are in ABVD as "Blust, from Grace notebooks and Ronald Walkers 1991 list". The (George) Grace notebooks are available in Paradisec and UH Manoa's library, not sure about Walker's list. I use this in ABVD:

@misc{GraceNB,
  howpublished = {Ms.},
  title        = {1955-1956 Fieldnotes: Notebook Swains Number 2},
  year         = {1956},
  url          = {http://digicoll.manoa.hawaii.edu/grace/Pages/PDFlist.html},
  author       = {Grace, George W.}
}
@misc{Walker-186-2005,
  author = "Ronald Walker",
  date = "2005",
  howpublished = "personal communication"
}

19468 Lobel 2014
*- either https://glottolog.org/resource/reference/id/574298 or https://glottolog.org/resource/reference/id/317908. Could ask Jason
254 White 1985

@book{118627,
  address    = {Canberra},
  pages      = {285},
  publisher  = {Research School of Pacific and Asian Studies, Australian National University},
  series     = {Pacific Linguistics: Series C},
  title      = {Cheke Holo dictionary},
  volume     = {97},
  year       = {1988},
  bibtexkey  = {kokhonigita-pulomana-white_cheke-holo1988},
  fn         = {papua\whiteetal_cheke-holo1988.pdf},
  hhtype     = {dictionary},
  inlg       = {English [eng]},
  macro_area = {Papua},
  src        = {hh},
  srctrickle = {hh#d:Whiteetal:Cheke-Holo},
  author     = {White, Geoffrey M. and Kokhonigita, Francis and Pulomana, Hugo}
}

The-Austronesianist · 2022-10-11T07:56:02Z

For the Lobel stuff, I entered in a new bib entry for his thesis, credited one of the entries to that, and another (Bulusu) to 2016. Basically all of the entries that were listed as n.d. had two periods in the bibtex key: n.d.., so the first quick fix I did there was just delete the extra period. The Tsuchida 1987 one was a key : reference mismatch, which I fixed. Lots of small things, only a handful of actual entries that needed searching. I believe most of the issues are taken care of now.

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