should bangs be saved as IIPs?

[forresto]

I tried to make a requestAnimationFrame version of the clock gist http://noflo.github.io/noflo-ui/#example/6699161

If you press start and stop in the animationFrame component IIPs are set for both. When you load the graph in the UI, currently those inputs change to text "true" instead of buttons.

If IIPs are not supposed to start anything (as I think @jpaulm was saying) then maybe we shouldn't be saving bangs as IIPs at all.

What's the equivalent of Pure Data's loadbang? Kick?

[jpaulm]

I take it a bang is some kind of trigger. This need typically crops up
when a process has (non-IIP) input ports, but you want it to start earlier
than the arrival of the first data IP. Or I guess the bang could be a
manual trigger allowing the network user to delay start of a process.
Henri and I actually discussed it in Toronto, and discovered that we used
different terms for such a component - I usually use Kick, but I think
Henri's Kick was slightly different - and Gate was in there somewhere!

So, yes, for me - the bang would be a process, rather than an IIP...

On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Forrest Oliphant
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I tried to make a requestAnimationFrame version of the clock gist
http://noflo.github.io/noflo-ui/#example/6699161

If you press start and stop in the animationFrame component IIPs are set
for both. When you load the graph in the UI, currently those inputs change
to text "true" instead of buttons.

If IIPs are not supposed to start anything (as I think @jpaulmhttps://github.com/jpaulmwas
saying https://github.com/noflo/dataflow-noflo/issues/1) then maybe we
shouldn't be saving bangs as IIPs at all.

What's the equivalent of Pure Data's loadbang? Kick?

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[forresto]

It makes sense to me that when a user clicks a bang button in the ui that
would be more like a process than an iip.

So, should the clock example kick the animation loop on load to start it?
http://vimeo.com/74965870

[jpaulm]

Love the video! Can you animate a process as a big red button?! With
appropriate sounds effects?...

On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Forrest Oliphant
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It makes sense to me that when a user clicks a bang button in the ui that
would be more like a process than an iip.

So, should the clock example kick the animation loop on load to start it?
http://vimeo.com/74965870

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[forresto]

Certainly 😉 http://meemoo.org/iframework/#gist/6705468

[jpaulm]

Beautiful! I almost got it untangled! [?]

On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Forrest Oliphant
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Certainly [image: 😉]http://meemoo.org/iframework/#gist/6705468

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[bergie]

@forresto correct, bangs via user input should not be stored as IIPs.

[bergie]

I think the easiest way to make this work would be to add and remove the IIP when receiving a bang. This way it would still get transmitted (and executed) in the NoFlo runtime, but wouldn't end up in the stored graph.