Bug report: All-cap strings spelled with TruVoice

[LarrySilvermintz]

Can someone please fix this problem speaking acronyms:
Steps to reproduce
Download and Install L&H TruVoice American English from www.bytecool.com/voices.htm
Set this as the active voice in NVDA.
Actual Behavior
When speaking, any string in all-caps is spelled instead of being pronounced as a word.
Expected Behavior
anything that can be pronounced as a word (acronyms) are indeed treated correctly.
Proposed solution:
Either
a) Fix the default behavior so that anything that can be pronounced as a word (acronyms) are indeed treated correctly.
or
b) modify the speech dictionary dialog box with ability to specify regular-expression-style replace with "capturing group"lowercase.

System Configuration
NVDA Installed 2018.2.1
Windows 7 Professional Version 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601

[josephsl]

Hi, I’m thinking this might be the synthesizer giving you odd results. If this happens with other synthesizers such as Espeak and OneCore, then this is something that we can fix from NVDA side. Thanks. From: LarrySilvermintz <notifications@github.com> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 11:14 AM To: nvaccess/nvda <nvda@noreply.github.com> Cc: Subscribed <subscribed@noreply.github.com> Subject: [nvaccess/nvda] Bug report: All-cap strings spelled with TruVoice (#8668) Can someone please fix this problem speaking acronyms: Steps to reproduce Download and Install L&H TruVoice American English from www.bytecool.com/voices.htm <http://www.bytecool.com/voices.htm> Set this as the active voice in NVDA. Actual Behavior When speaking, any string in all-caps is spelled instead of being pronounced as a word. Expected Behavior anything that can be pronounced as a word (acronyms) are indeed treated correctly. Proposed solution: Either a) Fix the default behavior so that anything that can be pronounced as a word (acronyms) are indeed treated correctly. or b) modify the speech dictionary dialog box with ability to specify regular-expression-style replace with "capturing group"lowercase. System Configuration NVDA Installed 2018.2.1 Windows 7 Professional Version 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601 — You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#8668> , or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AHgLkDqrBL4hY-YAdBWMb429RZLKE1f2ks5uTvDfgaJpZM4WKCBK> .

[Brian1Gaff]

Is this synth the old one we had both sapi4 and 5 versions of some years back? If so it was always somewhat odd in its handling of abbreviations. I do not have those any more, sorry. bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.

[LarrySilvermintz]

Hello NVDA gurus, Thank you so much for your instant response. Please let me know if you can possibly help: You are correct, other voices are handled correctly in NVDA. Yes, it is the classic SAPI4 speech package, again, the URL for free download is Download TruVoice: www.bytecool.com/voices.htm I have been using this voice for many years and am very accustomed to its pronounciation style. It does not have the problem with all-caps words when used by other applications. So, to repeat, Could you please possibly add the ability in the speech dictionary replace with entry to allow a "convert to lowercase of "capturing group"? This would also be useful in situations where someone may want to heare a group of words starting with a capital as regular words, whereas the other words that begin with a capital will continue to be identified according to the beep or pitch-change configuration. Of course, whichever way the problem gets solved is fine with me; the speech-dictionary just seems to be worth suggesting. Thank you! Larry Silvermintz

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_____ From: Brian Gaff [mailto:notifications@github.com] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 3:51 PM To: nvaccess/nvda Cc: LarrySilvermintz; Author Subject: Re: [nvaccess/nvda] Bug report: All-cap strings spelled with TruVoice (#8668) Is this synth the old one we had both sapi4 and 5 versions of some years back? If so it was always somewhat odd in its handling of abbreviations. I do not have those any more, sorry. bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. - You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view <#8668 (comment)> it on GitHub, or mute <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AXygUzeCJfNbgd6fscmCbAVuw n0Orbuyks5uTweIgaJpZM4WKCBK> the thread. <https://github.com/notifications/beacon/AXygU5evdlynbl5qOudwSIP3Em8n10MDks5 uTweIgaJpZM4WKCBK.gif>

[josephsl]

Hi, I see, and thanks for the update. I vaguely remember someone raising a similar issue (or the same thing) in the past. Thanks. From: LarrySilvermintz <notifications@github.com> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 4:56 PM To: nvaccess/nvda <nvda@noreply.github.com> Cc: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>; Comment <comment@noreply.github.com> Subject: Re: [nvaccess/nvda] Bug report: All-cap strings spelled with TruVoice (#8668) Hello NVDA gurus, Thank you so much for your instant response. Please let me know if you can possibly help: You are correct, other voices are handled correctly in NVDA. Yes, it is the classic SAPI4 speech package, again, the URL for free download is Download TruVoice: www.bytecool.com/voices.htm I have been using this voice for many years and am very accustomed to its pronounciation style. It does not have the problem with all-caps words when used by other applications. So, to repeat, Could you please possibly add the ability in the speech dictionary replace with entry to allow a "convert to lowercase of "capturing group"? This would also be useful in situations where someone may want to heare a group of words starting with a capital as regular words, whereas the other words that begin with a capital will continue to be identified according to the beep or pitch-change configuration. Of course, whichever way the problem gets solved is fine with me; the speech-dictionary just seems to be worth suggesting. Thank you! Larry Silvermintz

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_____ From: Brian Gaff [mailto:notifications@github.com] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 3:51 PM To: nvaccess/nvda Cc: LarrySilvermintz; Author Subject: Re: [nvaccess/nvda] Bug report: All-cap strings spelled with TruVoice (#8668) Is this synth the old one we had both sapi4 and 5 versions of some years back? If so it was always somewhat odd in its handling of abbreviations. I do not have those any more, sorry. bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. - You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view <#8668 (comment)> it on GitHub, or mute <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AXygUzeCJfNbgd6fscmCbAVuw n0Orbuyks5uTweIgaJpZM4WKCBK> the thread. <https://github.com/notifications/beacon/AXygU5evdlynbl5qOudwSIP3Em8n10MDks5 uTweIgaJpZM4WKCBK.gif> — You are receiving this because you commented. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#8668 (comment)> , or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AHgLkJs95ISK39bgBz0oRsM14QaSWI0jks5uT0D7gaJpZM4WKCBK> .

[jscholes]

If this is an issue with a particular speech engine, it's probably not the responsibility of the NVDA developers to fix it. However, I do agree that the pronunciation dictionary should offer some sort of text-transform mechanism when using capture groups in regular expressions. Perhaps you could file a separate feature request for that, with some examples of how you think it might work?