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suggestion, give a possibility to automatically spell the characters in phonetic form #8822
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Ah, you have been watching FS cast again obviously. Personally I cannot
think of anything worse that when I pause typing it suddenly says sierra, or
something. I guess you know you can do this on the numeric keypad already?
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I would like more to allow the option to spell phonetically to be hold
untill a mouvement different of character...
Explaining better:
1 - We are spelling a text with review cursor;
2 - The NumPad 1, 2 and 3 will echo the characters as a, b, c, etc;
3 - If we press NumPad 2 twice, NVDA will echo as alpha, bravo, charly,
etc, untill we press a key different of NumPad 1,2 or 3...
4 - That way we will be able to keep reviewing the ortography without
pressing NumPad 3, NumPad 2 twice, NumPad 3, NumPad 2 twice...
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Às 19:33 de 05/10/2018, fernando-jose-silva escreveu:
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Steps to reproduce:
the suggestion is for o o nvda to place an option for:
when navigating a character in a text spell automatically in phonetic mode.
so by checking this option when navigating a character, nvda would
advertise things like alpha, bravo, delta, etc.
The nvda makes it possible to do this by pressing nvda +. (point) two
times, the suggestion would be for nvda to do this automatically if the
user wishes.
This would be very well approved by me as I am reading passwords and
activation serial and I need to press nvda + all the time. (dot) to make
sure the correct character.
Just as examples the voice over has this option and also now the jaws
2019 beta.
Actual behavior:
To read a character phonetically, it is necessary to press twice for
nvda +. (point).
Expected behavior:
When selecting an option, nvda will assume the nvda + command. (point)
two times automatically when browsing characters.
System configuration:
NVDA Installed/portable/running from source:
instal
NVDA version:
all
Windows version:
all
Name and version of other software in use when reproducing the
issue:
Other information about your system:
Other questions:
Does the issue still occur after restarting your PC?
yes
Have you tried any other versions of NVDA?
yes
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I love this suggestion and found this issue when I heard about the JAWS 2019 release. @fernando-jose-silva is correct that VoiceOver already implements this. It helps me because I have a hearing loss that makes it difficult to distinguish between certain similar-sounding characters. @ruifontes, I think this is a good idea and is also how JAWS handles it. But I think the setting should be there for users to turn on always spell character phonetically or only in the temporary phonetic mode as you've described. I would have mine set to always announce phonetics, because I'm definitely one of those people that finds himself pressing CAPSLOCK+PERIOD twice quickly, a whole lot. @Brian1Gaff Haha, but for those of us who make heavy use of the VoiceOver feature, it's a very good thing that VO does. Especially when I'm in a loud environment and can't hear my VO clearly, I pause a lot on keyboard characters and have VO confirm, with the phonetic announcement, that I am indeed on or off the character I want. So while you might find it annoying, it does actually help some of us and i'd argue that it's absolutely necessary for people like me to function efficiently. |
CC @LeonarddeR just in case he may have any thoughts, since his recent work may assist with this case. Thanks.
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I love this suggestion and found this issue when I heard about the JAWS 2019 release. @fernando-jose-silva <https://github.com/fernando-jose-silva> is correct that VoiceOver already implements this. It helps me because I have a hearing loss that makes it difficult to distinguish between certain similar-sounding characters. @ruifontes <https://github.com/ruifontes> , I think this is a good idea and is also how JAWS handles it. But I think the setting should be there for users to turn on always spell character phonetically or only in the temporary phonetic mode as you've described.
I would have mine set to always announce phonetics, because I'm definitely one of those people that finds himself pressing CAPSLOCK+PERIOD twice quickly, a whole lot.
@Brian1Gaff <https://github.com/Brian1Gaff> Haha, but for those of us who make heavy use of the VoiceOver feature, it's a very good thing that VO does. Especially when I'm in a loud environment and can't hear my VO clearly, I pause a lot on keyboard characters and have VO confirm, with the phonetic announcement, that I am indeed on or off the character I want. So while you might find it annoying, it does actually help some of us and i'd argue that it's absolutely necessary for people like me to function efficiently.
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Closing as duplicate of #2922 |
@Adriani90 could you please re-open this ticked? If I understand well this ticket (#8822), the user wants to hear "alpha", "bravo", "golf" when navigating by character on "a", "b", "g" with Numpad1 and Numpad3 (sorry, I do not know laptop layout equivalents). On the contrary, in #2922, the user wants to have all IPA symbols spellt correctly, i.e. for "a", "b", "g" he should get "a", "be", "ghe". |
Agree with @CyrilleB79. Both tickets are different! |
Steps to reproduce:
the suggestion is for o o nvda to place an option for:
when navigating a character in a text spell automatically in phonetic mode.
so by checking this option when navigating a character, nvda would advertise things like alpha, bravo, delta, etc.
The nvda makes it possible to do this by pressing nvda +. (point) two times, the suggestion would be for nvda to do this automatically if the user wishes.
This would be very well approved by me as I am reading passwords and activation serial and I need to press nvda + all the time. (dot) to make sure the correct character.
Just as examples the voice over has this option and also now the jaws 2019 beta.
Actual behavior:
To read a character phonetically, it is necessary to press twice for nvda +. (point).
Expected behavior:
When selecting an option, nvda will assume the nvda + command. (point) two times automatically when browsing characters.
System configuration:
NVDA Installed/portable/running from source:
instal
NVDA version:
all
Windows version:
all
Name and version of other software in use when reproducing the issue:
Other information about your system:
Other questions:
Does the issue still occur after restarting your PC?
yes
Have you tried any other versions of NVDA?
yes
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