Z Sorting #13
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To help explains what's going on here, theres a few different ways stuff is being displayed. Most of the text in HXUI is being displayed using Ashita fonts library. The rest of HXUI is rendered using IMGUI, which is a UI framework that Ashita v4 offers. If HXUI is loaded before Balloon, Balloon's elements should usually cover what's been rendered using Ashita fonts. However, IMGUI will always render after everything else, which means out of the box we have no way to force Balloon to sit on top of IMGUI. One idea I have which I'll try when I get some time, would be to offer an option to render Balloon in IMGUI. Which would mean we could force it to the front. It might not be as performant but maybe it'd be good enough as an optional toggle for those that need it. I'll update here once I've had a chance to look into it. |
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Thanks for responding!
It's very interesting that HXUI uses a combination of rendering methods
instead of just using IMGUI across the board, but your response makes sense
given Balloon renders over the text but not the graphics.
If you have time to switch the render pipeline I think it would be very
useful. I feel like in most cases if text pops up you would want it to be
prioritized over any other information that's on the screen, and with only
so much screen real estate having it render over other plugins would be a
huge boon to users.
I can make another suggestion for this if you would like, but the one case
I can think of where you wouldn't want the text to cover other plugins, or
even show up at all, is when you are in battle. It could be nice if there
was a toggle to not have the text pop up while you are in battle. I was
doing the Tenzen fight CoP mission the other day, and part of that fight
had the three Tarus spamming text during the battle and it was constantly
popping up during the battle and it was very distracting to the point where
I had to disable the addon in the middle of the fight.
…On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 5:43 AM Mitch・ミッチ ***@***.***> wrote:
To help explains what's going on here, theres a few different ways stuff
is being displayed.
Most of the text in HXUI is being displayed using Ashita fonts library.
Balloon uses a similar method to the Ashita fonts but using a custom
library called gdifonts made by Thorny.
The rest of HXUI is rendered using IMGUI, which is a UI framework that
Ashita v4 offers.
If HXUI is loaded before Balloon, Balloon's elements should usually cover
what's been rendered using Ashita fonts. However, IMGUI will always render
after everything else, which means out of the box we have no way to force
Balloon to sit on top of IMGUI.
One idea I have which I'll try when I get some time, would be to offer an
option to render Balloon in IMGUI. Which would mean we could force it to
the front. It might not be as performant but maybe it'd be good enough as
an optional toggle for those that need it.
I'll update here once I've had a chat to look into it.
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@TheConBot RE the battle suggestion, I've added a new ticket for that: #14 As for the z-ordering issue:
I need to do some testing with it, but hopefully I can post a new release for it in the next few days. |
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Yeah that looks like it solves the issue! Thanks so much for taking the
time to do this work, it looks like the current changes are in the main
branch already, I'll clone the repo tonight to help test and let you know
if I find any bugs.
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@TheConBot <https://github.com/TheConBot> RE the battle suggestion, I've
added a new ticket for that: #14
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As for the z-ordering issue:
2024-02-28.15.15.39.png (view on web)
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I need to do some testing with it, but hopefully I can post a new release
for it in the next few days.
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@TheConBot thanks! |
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Just FYI there was an exception occuring from my last changes relating to the battle checking. It seemed to only occur during cutscenes. If you've got my changes from earlier, i've pushed a fix now to main. |
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Haven't gotten a chance to check yet but will do so soon, thanks for the
update!
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Just FYI there was an exception occuring from my last changes relating to
the battle checking. It seemed to only occur during cutscenes. If you've
got my changes from earlier, i've pushed a fix now to main.
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Fixed in 4.2.0 |
Hello! I just discovered this addon the other day and I think its a huge help for reading game text. One thing I would like to suggest is if its possible to introduce some sort of Z Sorting setting, if that is even possible with the UI framework being used, to have this addon render over all other game UI and other loaded addons.
It specifically has an interesting interaction with the HXUI addon, where the sprite and text are rendered over the HXUI text but not the sprites. It would be great if there was either a "force to front" toggle or being able to set a sort priority. Pictures below to illustrate what I mean. Thanks for considering and developing this addon!
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