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Changed messaging.system
attribute type to an open enum
#517
Changed messaging.system
attribute type to an open enum
#517
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Signed-off-by: Alexander Wert <alexander.wert@elastic.co>
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I guess this requires a breaking change changelog entry?
Yeah, was not sure whether that is practically a breaking change or not. Since it still allows for custom values, so any string values being used before should still work, right? |
It could be considered breaking for an instrumentation that used to report |
The value for Amazon SQS is still |
Signed-off-by: Alexander Wert <alexander.wert@elastic.co>
Signed-off-by: Alexander Wert <alexander.wert@elastic.co>
I think it would be better to change to the desired value right away, because different instrumentations are using different values here. I have even seen differences in Lambda SQS event vs. SDK SQS usage. So it will break someone anyway. |
Signed-off-by: Alexander Wert <alexander.wert@elastic.co>
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I'm not convinced by the advantages of the approach taken for database.system
. Open enums are a good choice for a sufficiently stable set of values, but not for a set of values that is expected to expand continuously.
- We will end up with an ever-growing list that is never complete (there are already 51 entries for databases), with many outdated or irrelevant values that aren't of use to anybody.
- Any time we want to add support for a new system, we'll need to change the system-independent part of semantic conventions. That's bad design in my opinion.
- We blur the distinctions regarding ownership and stability between system-specific and system-independent conventions. This might become tricky once system-independent semantic conventions are stable, but system-specific ones aren't.
- Technically, adding new values to this list can be seen as a breaking change. Somebody who is using the identifier
AmazonSNS
is compliant according to the proposed settings, but once we addamazon_sns
they aren't anymore.
We need to be consistent between [messaging|database|rpc].system
attributes, and I don't want to block this change at any price. However, I'd like a discussion where we settle on a consistent approach for all of those attributes before doing any changes here, as the benefits aren't immediately apparent to me.
@pyohannes Thanks for your review! There are some really good points and I agree we should discuss them more, but also have different opinions on some of the points.
It's a good point, but highly depends on whether we consider adding a new value to an open enum a breaking change or not. If not, I don#t see that as a problem (even if the tech-independent part would be stable), because the changes would be additive only.
I think that's what I see as a big practical problem with the current approach for IMHO, the enum is a great way to have an overview in one place and because it's an open enum users can still use custom values when needed.
That's a good point. BUT, we are talking here about one value per tech-specific convention. And practically it doesn't matter what the value is as long as it is being used consistently for a given technology. So, once defined it should not break that often / at all?
Why is that a problem? Even if not complete, if I'm looking for what value I need to use (as an instrumentor or user) for (let's say) MongoDB I can look up in that list and I don't care if there are other values in there as long as I can find what to use for that specific technology. |
I like that we can unify a system string for one messaging system across different client libraries/languages. We can use the same principle as for the E.g. if I add an extension for Azure Service Bus, it'd do something like - ref: messaging.system
type:
members:
- id: servicebus
... # no other members This way core messaging spec may remain slim and we can still have documented name for each messaging system. |
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I checked the current stability definitions, according to that it's not a breaking change: "Specifically for
Do you see it as a possibility to have these lists of systems in separate files and refer to those? As those lists might get very long (thinking years ahead maybe dozens, or in the case of databases maybe hundreds of values) and need to be duplicated for metrics and span documents. Admittedly readability isn't a primary goal of specifications, however I think this could make it easier to consume those documents, especially the messaging document which is already quite long and complex. |
I agree that the list can grow long. And I like @lmolkova 's proposal on how to extend the values in tech-specific conventions (that would be in multiple files). But that's not supported yet by tooling. So how about the following?
One think we have to keep in mind though: If there are hundreds of databases / messaging systems that we want to provide a value for (and I thing we should specify those values to avoid inconsistencies) then a simple list is the most compact approach. Writing these values into separate semantic convention files would result in hundreds of individual semantic convention pages which might be even worse, especially if the only purpose for such a page would be to document that value (without any additional attributes or conventions defined). |
I agree. I was thinking about a separate file like I'm willing to work on tooling for that, if there's a consensus that we want to go that route. |
I like that idea! So are you fine with making it an enum in this PR and then we'll work on making your proposal possible? |
Yes, sounds good to me. |
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Changes
Follow-up from #490 (comment)
For consistency with
database.system
changing themessaging.system
attribute type from string to enum. This also helps with documenting well-known values to be used for different messaging systems.Merge requirement checklist